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To: Gabz
I hate to be a wet blanket on this party, but while we got a lot more grass roots activity growing in the DC area and some excellent well-spoken local citizens giving testimony, the main reason they lost is that they forgot their winning formula and tried for a total ban in one shot instead of instituting them piecemeal. They always used to go for bans in restaurants first, and then use the restaurant owners wanting to get back business from bars by "leveling the playing field" to help go after total bans in bars and taverns. I can only assume they got cocky after winning NY and most of the Northeast this year.

You can bet they'll be discussing this at their anti-smoker advocate terrorist training camp that convened in Boston that started today. They'll be back.
50 posted on 12/10/2003 4:17:37 PM PST by lockjaw02 ("The phenomenon of corruption is like the garbage. It has to be removed daily." -Ignacio)
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To: lockjaw02
You can bet they'll be discussing this at their anti-smoker advocate terrorist training camp...

Oh, here's a seminar geared especially for me:

Cessation Strategies for the Older Smoker (50 plus)

"Key points: 1. Older smokers are at more immediate risk of a tobacco related illnesses, are in most immediate danger of quality of life decline, and may be more costly in terms of medical expenses and lost productivity."

I suggest that they just kill me now and put me out of my misery! :)

51 posted on 12/10/2003 4:32:59 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: lockjaw02
Lock, my dear friend, why is it that everyone insists on totally ignoring what happened in Delaware?????

One fell swoop and it was everywhere, no ifs and or butts........

And another thing that everyone seems to ignore is these bans encompass EVERY business, not just bars and restaurants. The media concentration is always on the bars and restaurants. Of course, so is the enforcement concentrations.

I don't know how it works in NY, but I know that in Delaware the majority of enforcement is based on anonymous complaints to the snitch line. Well the very few (under 18) enforcement agents are also the the very same inspectors that are in charge of making sure every food service establishment (including supermarkets) are maintaining standards.

I wonder what would happen if all of a sudden the snitch line in Delaware was inundated with calls about businesses other than bars or restaurants? Considering the head of enforcement for the Department of Health stated for the record when the ban went into effect that enforcement of the ban would be their number one priority........

Does anyone wonder why I suggest people do not eat in restaurants in Delaware??????

Closing Plenary: Surviving and Thriving in Difficult Financial Times

This must be party time - because antis have never encountered difficult financial times.

52 posted on 12/10/2003 4:57:48 PM PST by Gabz (Smoke gnatzies - small minds buzzing in your business - swat'em!!!)
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