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To: scrutiny
You can purchase gold using one of the offshore digital gold currency exchange providers, and then redeem the gold in your account for physical gold bars, for delivery to your vault (e.g, a safety deposit box at your bank in Switzerland.)

If TSHTF, the last thing you would want would be to have physical gold in your possession within the jurisdiction of the US legal system. Nor would you want your gold transactions to be traceable, nor your gold accounts to be subject to US legal process.

If things got so bad that money was worthless, then only water, food and weapons would have any real value.

19 posted on 12/09/2003 5:19:11 PM PST by sourcery (This is your country. This is your country under socialism. Any questions? Just say no to Socialism!)
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To: sourcery
I suspect there are many who would always be willing to trade for gold.
26 posted on 12/09/2003 5:41:39 PM PST by Phaedrus
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To: sourcery
If things got so bad that money was worthless, then only water, food and weapons would have any real value.

Optimists buy shares. Pessimists buy gold. Realists buy ammo.

36 posted on 12/09/2003 6:14:59 PM PST by John Locke
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To: sourcery
If things got so bad that money was worthless, then only water, food and weapons would have any real value.

Add sex & drugs to your list..

44 posted on 12/09/2003 7:22:57 PM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: sourcery
You are right of course. TSHTF cartridges and whiskey would be the currency. My thoughts are along the lines of that not happening and just the paper Federal Reserve Note debt token (FRNDT)losing relative exchange value against the dollar for some time to come.

That didn't make sense? To me it does. First I have begun to refuse to call our currency dollars even though every one else does. When I mention dollars above I am really talking about gold. I have one or more gold eagles with a face value of $50.00. I believe they are telling the truth. Therefore we do have a gold standard that fixes one Dollar to 1/50 Oz of gold. But this gold standard in no way tries to determine how many FRNDTs buy an ounce of gold; the market determines that and it is always changing. It is enough to accept that there is a gold standard, and that in one dollar there is 1/50 Oz of gold. All your gold eagles are both evidence and proof of that. Case closed. I am NOT suggesting that goods and services are priced in gold. That is not the requirement for a gold standard anyway. Just that a CERTAIN amount of gold equals one dollar and that has been fulfilled. What remains is to stop calling dollars those which are not dollars.

Regarding my refusal to refer to our currency (that prices common goods and services) as dollars, I look at it this way. The elites have exercised their power to define terms and as a result we are oblivious to the real gold standard of 1/50 Oz to the dollar (the dollar is always of gold) as I described above, and we willingly call dollars things that almost defy definition. This can only be the result of brainwashing. Orwell was right. There is a huge brainwashed cult of people in the United States who believe that bank credit created from nothing, composed of nothing but an agreement to pay back with interest, made visible by a piece of paper or numbers on a computer screen---are dollars. This when real dollars are around to be seen. How can anyone look at a gold eagle with face value of $50.00 and continue to believe bank credit is dollars? I can't. I believe the banks are lying about their credit being dollars and I would support calling them anything but dollars.

In the movie "Total Recall" several times money was exchanged. The amount asked for was so many "credits." This would work. I think one of the writers of "Total Recall" knew what was going on with the Federal Reserve and snuck that in.

This has gone so far with me that in email to another person I have a different set of agreed upon symbols to denominate money.

When I mean a gold eagle at one ounce, I type:
$50.00 (read fifty dollars) because that is the face value of one ounce of gold.

When I mean FRNDT Fed Res Note Debt Tokens, I type:
!50.00 (read fifty credits, following total recall) because that is the face value of tokens that identify bank credit borrowed at interest, promised to be paid back someday. I chose the exclamation point because it signifies surprise, and I think the founders would be unpleasantly surpried if they knew the degree to which the elites have control over the people.

Either way, $50.00, !50.00, you know exactly to which I refer. It is concise and precise. ! can be combined to signify all debt based currencies. !euro50.00
!pound50.00
!peso50.00
even !dollar50.00 you know means !50.00 and not $50.00.
I would refuse to write $gold50.00 as that would be redundant. $=gold and gold=$ end of story.

Nutty? Maybe. Over the gate at a NAZI concentraton camp, there was ironwork spelling out that "in work there is freedom" or some such as if that was supposed to make dying Jews feel better. Orwell warned that those who would control the masses would seek to control the definitions of words. This is my little way of resisting that.

54 posted on 12/10/2003 5:22:24 AM PST by Jason_b
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