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To: BigSimonia
I really do not know what your post has to do with mine, but here goes:

What about these chapters and verses. How do they fit in?

Blessed are the peacemakers; for they shall be called the children of God (Matthew 5:9)

I do not see how peace is a concept exclusive to liberals. In fact, if you would like to get into a discussion of peace, many have said that peace can only be gained by going to war and destroying your enemies. We are never going to have peace with Al Qaida by offering up an olive branch. They want us dead and there is no bargaining with that. The very word you quote is in danger from these Islamic fanatics. They want to wipe you out and your way of life if you cannot submit to Islam. The Holy Bible and the Word of God makes no difference to them. Will you take up the cross and fight for Christ, or submit to Allah in the name of peace?

The United States has brought peace to Japan, to Germany, to Italy, to many countries throughout our history, and each time we have done so through war, followed by a plan of aid and friendship.

I say unto you: that ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also (Matthew 6:39)

By all means, love your enemy and be strong, but I do not believe the word is meant to imply that we should allow ourselves to be destroyed by our enemy. Pray for and pray with your enemy and help them understand that the only way to salvation is through Christ. Once again, this idea is not exclusive to liberals.

Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away (Matthew 6:42)

Are you saying that only liberals are charitable? That only liberals give to those less fortunate? I do not see anywhere in this passage that tells us that we need to submit to socialism, that we need to give all our earned money to a government that is irresponsible and does not spend my hard-earned money wisely.

Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you (Matthew 6:44)

Take a look at Iraq. We are doing just that, under the leadership of a conservative president. They cursed us under the leadership of Hussein, they hated us, wanted to do harm to us, offered aid to terrorists that want to hurt us. Now we are involved in an operation to give the Iraqi people freedom from oppression. We offer our prayers to the Iraqi people that they might have a better future than they had with a tyrant who murdered millions of his own people.

If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. (Matthew 10:21)

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. (Matthew 19:23-24)

Obviously Christ calls upon us to help the poor and needy, and follow Him. I have no comment on how this effects us in our daily lives, other than to give as much as possible. Once again, this has nothing to do with the original content of the thread, that is the question of whether Christ was liberal or conservative. I think the entire arguement is nonsense, quite frankly, and has no bearing on my life as it is right now. If you would like to get into a Biblical arguement, I am sure many could cite verses and words of Christ that directly oppose beliefs of the left - such as homosexuality and abortion.

37 posted on 12/09/2003 3:09:48 PM PST by SaveTheChief
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To: SaveTheChief
Interesting how everyone (libs and cons) think Jesus is on their side. Interesting how everyone has their own interpretation of His words that fit their own philosophies. The Conservative side is often rooted in what Jesus did not say about something, which is an interpretation of sorts. Conservatives also believe in a strict interpretation of the constitution with attention to what the constitution doesn't allow as something the (federal) government has no right to do. Liberals, with their loose constriction of the constitution also take Jesus' words and expound on them to fit contemporary situations. Libs will also take Jesus' exact words as a mandate for what the government should be doing and see the constitution as flexible enough to accomodate what Jesus commanded.

Who is right? Ask either side and they'll say they are and question why someone doesn't see it. Personally, I don't profess to be smart enough to say what Jesus intended or didn't intend. I just do my best to do what I think he wants of me.
52 posted on 12/09/2003 5:41:52 PM PST by DaGman
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