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To: Mamzelle
Here's the webpage of the head of the project. If you think it's a lie, let him know. Maybe he will care about your opinion.
Chung-I Wu, Chairman of the Department of Ecology & Evolution, University of Chicago.
255 posted on 03/22/2004 9:44:46 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Everything good that I have done, I have done at the command of my voices.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I've been doing some research on Chung-I Wu, trying to find the much-promised Fly of the Lie. I went right to his page before you provided it, and there are no new flies to be had. AAMOF, I'd been searching all over the place for the new fly species before I posted to you.

Found a nice long article about a scientist named Suzuki, too--he did similar attempts at new flies decades ago, without the microscopic gene-splicing, of course. You may be interested, but... No new flies.

You posted the original article--I suppose you expect Wu to stand behind the title? It could be possible that he did not write the headline, perhaps a journalist got too enthusiastic, but it comes from the U of Chicago hospital and I've found no qualifying since. They really should not have claimed such a breakthrough, or allowed this title to stand unqualified, on hopeful expectation alone.

But it is SO hard to get a good grant these days! Sometimes the temptation to embellish is well-nigh irresistable.

I'll check back in three more months to see if 90 more generations have produced the promised NEW speciation.

257 posted on 03/22/2004 9:57:10 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: PatrickHenry
Hello, Pat. It's been six whole months since the first claim as per new man-generated fruit fly species. That's a total of 180 potential generations in the lab--180 opportunities to add the the number of species.

Any news yet? New flies on the fly? I googled, and only found the Old News--where Wu promised, but we don't yet get to see....

How dependable are the words and promises of scientists....? Will he deliver?

258 posted on 06/08/2004 7:23:48 AM PDT by Mamzelle (for a post-neo conservatism)
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To: PatrickHenry
The original paper:

Greenberg, A. J., J. R. Moran, J. A. Coyne, and Chung-I Wu 2003 Ecological adaptation during incipient speciation as revealed by precise gene replacement. Science 302: 1754-1757.

Follow-up papers co-authored by Dr. Wu:

Kohn, M. H., S. Fang and C.-I Wu 2004 Inference of positive and negative selection on the 5' regulatory regions of Drosophila genes. Mol. Biol. Evol. 21:374-383.

Kyoichi Sawamura, John Roote, Chung-I Wu, and Masa-Toshi Yamamoto 2004 Extreme Genetic Complexity Underlying Hybrid Male Sterility in Drosophila. Genetics 166: 789-796.

Ting, C., S. Tsuar, S. Sun, W. Browne, N. Patel and C.-I Wu 2004 Gene duplication and speciation in Drosophila – Evidence from the Odysseus locus. Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. 101: 12232-12235.

Sun, S, C. Ting, and C.-I Wu 2004 The normal function of a speciation gene, Odysseus, and its hybrid sterility effect. Science 305: 81-83.

Alipaz, J. A., S. Fang and C.-I Wu 2005 Evolution of sexual isolation in laboratory populations: I. Genotypic vs. phenotypic changes during secondary contact. Amer. Natur. 165:420-428.

Alipaz, J. A., T. Karr and C.-I Wu 2005 Evolution of sexual isolation in laboratory populations: II. Fitness effects of mating traits and the associated hybrid incompatibilities Amer. Natur. 165:429-438.

Lee, S., et al. C-I Wu, X. Zhang and S. Wang. 2005. Detecting novel low-abundant transcripts in Drosophila. RNA 11:939-946.

Adaptive loss of an old duplicated gene during incipient speciation. Mol Biol Evol. 2006 Feb;23(2):401-10. Epub 2005 Oct 26.

Genomic inferences of the cis-regulatory nucleotide polymorphisms underlying gene expression differences between Drosophila melanogaster mating races. Mol Biol Evol. 2006 Aug;23(8):1585-91.

Genomic inferences of the cis-regulatory nucleotide polymorphisms underlying gene expression differences between Drosophila melanogaster mating races. Mol Biol Evol. 2006 Aug;23(8):1585-91

Of course, this isn't all of them, but it's a good overview. But hey, if it's not on Google, they must have something to hide, right?

265 posted on 09/05/2006 4:53:33 AM PDT by Senator Bedfellow (If you're not sure, it was probably sarcasm.)
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