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To: PatrickHenry
Seeing as how this was done deliberately by direct intelligent intervention, wouldn't it be more supportive of intelligent design than evolution?
10 posted on 12/09/2003 8:05:50 AM PST by templar
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To: templar
"..more supportive of intelligent design than evolution?"

Exactly right! Well said.

I don't remember Darwin mentioning a gene splicing machine in his theory.

16 posted on 12/09/2003 8:26:37 AM PST by laotzu
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To: templar; PatrickHenry
wouldn't it be more supportive of intelligent design than evolution?

Y'all noticed this, but you, PH have got their number.

49 posted on 12/09/2003 10:48:16 AM PST by RightWhale (Close your tag lines)
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To: templar
Seeing as how this was done deliberately by direct intelligent intervention, wouldn't it be more supportive of intelligent design than evolution?

No. It's true that the genetic change itself did come from an intelligent source. But we know such a change could come about through random mutation, if we observed nature for long enough (we know random mutations happen, that much is really not up for debate). But the mutation itself is not what is really interesting.

The insects themselves have chosen not to breed with each other (for the most part, at least--the article said they "preferred" their own kind). Once the scientists set the mutation in motion, the flies themselves have separated themselves out. This sexual isolation between the two groups is not the result of scientists keeping half the flies in one cage and half in the other, but is the result of choices made by individual flies.

In other words, evolution does not require top-down management from scientists or a deity. The individual actors themselves will organize into species without top-down interference.

Of course, the actual speciation has not yet happened, and that will probably take a while (it will probably be more than just a few generations before they are physically incapable of mating). Still, this experiment is pretty big news.

203 posted on 12/13/2003 2:13:29 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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