To: FreeReign; Sabertooth
Yes he did, read the article, follow the footnotes. You do lesson one, and then you might get help with lesson two, okie-dokey? Beyond that I can supply you with a page or two on each one, but not at the moment b/c time. Mahboob Kahn hosted Bin LAden's mentor and number two in AQ, twice; he set up a number of radcial groups as mentioned above in this thread and was a cofounder and the Western Division director of ISNA, the main Wahhabi Mosque operation in the US; the elder Tulbah was the treasurer of the Great Houston Islamic center a combine of nearly 30 entities, whose relgious teaching is controlled by a 3 or 5 member council, two of whose members, at least, maintain/contributed to pro-AlQaeda websites; this is one of the many metrics one uses to identify salafiya groups. That's the skinny.
FYI, He did't charge. He stated. This has been dealt with before, so when you are finished reading the Gaffney , you can read the thread. You can also read Keene and Weyrich and others on Grover's charge on this re "racism and bigotry" rather than him instead addressing the facts. Grover took it into the gutter to change the story so that no one would talk about Gaffney's obvious main point which was the atrocious judgment being consistently exhibited in the choices of Muslim groups to bring into the Administrations. As quickly became more evident via handcuffs, there have been nothing but troubling, not to say felonious, emanations from this clever scheme. How Suhail Khan or Ali Tulbah got the jobs, who feeds them people, who protects their political flank, and yes, even who their fathers were/are was only a sidebar to the main issue and everyone knows it. If I were Frank, I wouldn't have set myself by mentioning the fathers, knowing Grover as we do, but there it is. And as you can discover, both fathers Wahhabi/Islamist associations, to put it mildly, are
very much real.
To: FreeReign
The Arab and Muslim voter population that actually voted in the 2000 election turns out to be about 1%. (kinda shows why they could't even carry Spencer Abraham to victory in their most concentrated state). So, Let's GO FOR IT, What a cleverling idea that Grover had. Or was he a naif. I can't recall......
ALL:
I made a mistake here. The Muslims who actually voted number should have been estimated, as the 2002 congressional elections figure from the Roper Center, "as about .3 percent." This makes the point stronger of course, additional to showing that it is so small as to be difficult to reliably measure, and too far below the margin of error for survey research/polling which is normally expressed as + or - 3. to 5.% Even then assuming that this is a 'block' -- one with common views on something fancied as "Muslim issues" shared across Pakistanis, Black Americans converts and Iranians -- the GOP could only expect to do as well as it does with, say White women, and get around half of this 'block.'
Wow.
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