[Sabertooth]

This explanation doesn't cut it for me.

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In other words, instead of this explanation making me more credulous, it makes me less.

Fair enough; it's a good point. That's why I sent the e-mail to Gaffney.

Which leads me to the same place this thread has led me. I am troubled by some of the things regarding Norquist which appear to me to be undeniable, such as why he was pushing for the election (as a Republican) of someone who fits in well with Stalinist groups like the IAC. But I am also skeptical of some of the information presented as evidence of his perfidy.

The problem Norquist has, I think, is that even if not everything Gaffney's written were to bear out, there is too much there for that alone to exonerate Grover.

Particularly unconvincing are Norquist's lies and race-baiting in response to this story.

[William McKinley]

The problem Norquist has, I think, is that even if not everything Gaffney's written were to bear out, there is too much there for that alone to exonerate Grover.

Particularly unconvincing are Norquist's lies and race-baiting in response to this story.

I'm pretty much where you are at.

[swarthyguy]

>>race-baiting

Screaming racism is a dead giveaway, dontcha think.

The last or the only refuge....

[general_re]

I concur as well. It's clear that, for whatever reason, Grover's been hanging around with undesirables. The interesting question now is, why? Was he, as has been implied, a willing accomplice? Did he think he was co-opting them somehow? Or was he truly ignorant about them?

I'm not sure that the way Norquist has reacted is as revealing as one might think. Imagine for a moment that he was really duped by these folks, and now he's being accused of being an active abetter of terrorists, essentially being accused of treason, for want of a better word. If I were falsely accused, and had been duped myself, I myself might react very badly to charges that I was a knowing accomplice of terrorists. In any case, though, his answer has to be better than "my accusers are racists" - that won't wash.