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>>>First, let's call them radical Islamists, because "only a few" have been, to date, brought up on terrorism charges.<<<

Thanks for your interesting reply. Your a lot deeper into this situation than I - I need to do some research.

Technically your quote above is accurate. However, I see little differentiation between those that collect money to finance terrorists, those that actually wire the bombs, and those that pull the triggers.

As I remember this professor in Florida, Sami was his last name, has been accused (or convicted?) of raising money for the Palestinian terrorists. Wasn't he in one of the Arab groups to visit the WH?

Keep me posted on developments in this flap. I think Norquist is a huge potential danger to Bush - if not physically, then politically.

"Technically your quote above is accurate. However, I see little differentiation between those that collect money to finance terrorists, those that actually wire the bombs, and those that pull the triggers."

AGREE 1000%, as the Presidnt AG, SecTreas and SECDEF has said repeatedly. I was just being super senstive to the doubting Thomases. That is why Norquist trafficking of these people into the White House and movement is so troubling and must stop.

"As I remember this professor in Florida, Sami was his last name, has been accused (or convicted?) of raising money for the Palestinian terrorists. Wasn't he in one of the Arab groups to visit the WH?"

Dr. Sami Al_Arian, much reprised in the Gaffney article and elsewhere in this string and in exceleltn peices in the St Pete Times by Mary Jacoby, and in Insight Magazine by Mike Waller, et a, He is in jail awaiting a Jan 05 trial on 50 terror-related counts, principally stemming from his role as worldwide secretary of the Shura (Executive Council) of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (the bus and cafe bombings targeting civilians that we have seen on TV every fortnight or so and which have killed the equivalent of 48,000 Israelis in hte past 3-4 years (using the US/Isr poo. ratio) --a little shy of what we lost in Vietnam. He was the number two in charge, roughly, and the head of finance.

Sami came to the White House in June of 01 (which Grover denied on the Hewitt show last week but has long since been documented on the front page of the W Post, WSJ, Newsweek, etc following Sami's arrest on Feb 20, 2003.) -- and Sami was scheduled to be on a conference call to the White Hosue about "secret evidence" on 9/11.

He headed a legal aid consortium for terororists called the National Coalition to Protect Political Freedoms which gave Grover it's annual award in 2001. (by the way, NCPPF is run by Kit Gage, Executive VP of the National Lawyers Guild, identified by the US COngress and well known as a soviet front organzation. an ad hoc effot it effectiveley coordinates betweenteh ACLU, NLG, and a stable of terrorist lawyers and their clients and their "soidarity committess and front groups.)

Grover has had Sami in his office and has appeared at numerous conferences and events with Sami over the past 5 years.

Al Arian was funded by the same organizations that fund Norquist and some of whose leaders have been listed as unindicted co-conspirators or arrested, including for AlQaeda support (see above thread re Operation GreenQuest, Alamoudi etc.)

Al Arian sent letters to the editor of the WSJ, in my possession and already public, in which email he copied Norquist on encapsulated draft versions for his emandations -- a suggestion of a collaborative relationship to the reasonable observer.

The last time Al Arian was seen visiting Grover's office for over 2 hours, July 17, 2002, was the day last summer when he joined Alamoudi at the National Press Club to sue President Bush and SECSTATE Powell. The lawyer for the case is Hamas and Alamoudi attorney Stanley Cohen.

Grover has in the past striven to deny that he actually "knows" AlArian. This is demonstrably risible.

I hope these examples are helpful. There is more, and at any rate all of this implies that there are other private interactions. Bear in mind this is only one of several such individuals and groups Norquist has introduced, worked with and fo and defended over the past 5-plus years. (E.g., see "Kamal Nawash" post by Sabertooth above.) Read Gaffney's article,"A troubling Influence" -- the point of departure for this thread, and his 81 very useful endnotes