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And if they knew something about these guys that I didn't, and used it to play "gotcha" rather than letting me or their masters -"

FYI, No one is playing "gotcha" --if anything the game is "Stop Ya."

The point as almost everyone else seems to get, is that Norqyist is the one who knew who these people were. If he didn't why was he taking their money, sharing an office with their deputies and speaking at untold numbers of events with them and getting their awards for 5 years? Is it because he's the dumbest person on L street?

Just FYI: There is no Thought Policy Division of the Secret Service. It is not anyone's job to ideologically vet those taking meetings in the WH complex except those arranging their own meetings.

If you are the WH in-house staffer or outside advisor on Veterans coalitions, and you decide you want to bring Jane Fonda in, it is no one's job in the security, intell or scheduling office to tell you "No", question your decision or anything else.

No outstanding warrants, no threats to the President, and she's in.

The responsible and guilty person is the one who brings her in. period. That's how it works whether you think its laughable or not. This is only further compounded when it turns out that this same person took money from "Ted" or "Jane," and a little from some known fronts for Soros and Hanoi, and to top it off used "Jane's" former congressional agitator to do all the leg work. Got it? Ok, now, slowly, substitute "Grover" for "the person", and "Alamoudi" for "Jane", and "Saudi" for "Hanoi," and...

Using this simple diagram, we can see that IT IS NOT SOMEONE ELSE's JOB -- IT IS GROVER's . Call it the burden of access, fame and power -- a terribly heavy thing, but some of us have to do it, and it's only once every few years that someone comes this close this often to screwing it so big.