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Ollie almost took down the Reagan Administration by playin fast and loose with facts..

According to your schematic, it appears you are now calling Oliver North a traitor, if you hold him to the same standard you use for Norquist.

According to your schematic, it appears you are now calling Oliver North a traitor,

He doesn't have to. General Singlaub took apart North's reputation some years ago.

Why don't you deal with my words and leave musings about my schemata, or your own metaphysics, or whatever other dross aside. If I wanted to call someone a traitor I would do so. I precisely said he played fast and loose with the facts. (Don't put words in my mouth young man, not to regroup your pallid arguments, or for any other reason.)

It was quite obvious to most serious observers, left and right, that this was the case. But, I can understand that you are unaware of the facts that occured almost a decade before you voted the first time, for Ollie.

That is why I sent you one reference, and I will give you one other, the relevant chapter on Ollie in Dr. Constantine Menges' "Inside the National Security Council" Menges was the Assistant to the President for Latin America, having also been Casey's appointee as NIO for LA at the CIA, i.e. the top job. He is the intellectual author (Rand 1968, "Democratic forces in Communist Territory" or something very close to that), of what came to be called the "Reagan Doctrine" after Krauthammer labeled it such

So there are two well-esteemed people who were there and have written about it. One Assistant to the President and one Major General who ran most every important Special Ops and COIN program we had before Carter kicked him out of Korea. Ollie, a Lt. Col., is a fine person, a patriot and a good conservative. Ditto Grover.

Difference is, Ollie can more or less admit to some mistakes, at least as those were proven by events, and in nationally televised hearings, etc. Grover can admit to none. But both are over-zealous, which is their charm and their fatal flaw. Fatal especially inasmuch as it plays to the crowds and they love that. As, I gather, do you.

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