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for the 4th time you have ignored my explaining to you what the legal and procedural reasons are

Yes, you have patiently explained this. Now let me explain something to you. As a citizen and a taxpayer, I spend a fortune every year on a defense and national security establishment. When it comes to protecting the President of the United States from foreign intrigue, "that's not my department" is not the answer I want to hear.

Call me naive; call me anything you want. What I'm not is a bureaucrat, and I do not want to hear bureaucrat answers like "it's not our fault" that all these creepy guys got in to see the President. I do not want to hear that the head of Americans for Tax Reform is the guy on the hook for finding the Arab terrorists. This is just a totally BS spew that you are giving us here. Patiently or otherwise.

This is how 9/11 happened. You guys haven't changed a thing. It's against procedures. It's not my department. We don't do airplanes. It's all his fault. We have Bad Guys in the White House, and the answer to this is to beat up the head of Americans for Tax Reform because the people the taxpayers are paying to protect the President from this stuff are out following procedures somewhere.

It's enough to make a poor citizen tear his hair out.

"I do not want to hear that the head of Americans for Tax Reform is the guy on the hook for finding the Arab terrorists."

We are not actually talking about "foreign intrigue," another one of you bait-and-switch gambits. we are talking about a domestic one.

No, "he is on the hook" for bringing them in. Hate to break it to you , but we are a nation of laws. We operate under laws whether we like it or not. The LE/IC would like to do a lot more in many cases, but Congress does things like Pike and Church and people like Grover try to block so-called "secret evidence" and Patriot Act, and then when any of us suggests some terr or terr symp (we don't make much distinction as the President has rightly said,and Grover hates)-- should be blocked ,watched, arrested, Norquist et al start accusing of racism, bigotry and profiling. So you're beef about that should be with him and Saffuri, and Sami, et al.

People are doing their jobs, thank you very much, but Grover is trying to make it harder. As the USSS and FBI have learned time and again -- one example you all must be familiar with is Gary Aldrich and his book (and he was precisely the FBI liaison the FBI and USSS). When Gary, (yes, a friend of mine)and the Service told the WH political operation and other staffers things they didn't want to hear, he was ignored, punished and finally forced out of his job. So don't compound your evident ignorance of the machinery and laws/due process, etc., by suggesting that people aren't doing their job, and at considerable risk I might add.

You don't know who I am, granted, but I am in the forefront of efforts to rewire US LE and IC so that a greater fusion of foreign and domestic intellegence and analysis results and the "dots" get connected. The lack of this was one of the primary contributing elements of the 9/11 intelligence failure (along with many others, such as the Clinton gutting of humint and elint, ordering LE/IC not to look at anything Saudi or domestic Muslim, etc., much of which Powell/State and Tenet are continuing).

One of the structural and operational keys to any fix, a necessary condition, is the use of the exact tools that Grover opposes and has attacked the AG for: use of foreign intelligence information domestically and the Patriot Act. Not to mention NSEERS or CAPPS 1 and II, or Grover's position on immigration. Again, are you getting any of this?