To: Trollstomper
If I stay around long enough I may eventually figure out how to navigate about.
I assume you're talking about a voluntary stay around and not an administrative not around. 
The second is always a consideration, even for those of us of the "late coming Class of 2000". 
I feel fortunate to be here still. I mind my P's and Q's a lot.
To: philman_36
Hi, I don;t really care a whole lot. I just wanted to get some views from the ground on the grover and see what/if any arguments his partisans and groupies would advance. Nothing to worry about as it turns out, and site-wide its not a love-in. Amazing that people, apparently in some proportion to how removed they are from DC, think he's irreplacable. He's a godfather, he fixes access for people who can't quite get it themselves; when he passes from the scene, someone else will do it. He has figured out how to personally profit from it, and its been an ugly thing to see. Quite funny actually for such a "leave us alone coalition" self-styled libertarian to become so suddenly swept up in state power -- "Karl and I", "apologize to me and the President," "The White House says..." etc. L'etat ces't Moi from Grover. How rich. And that is the beginning of his ending.
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