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Actually, he lied and denies. He said his Institute only had one check from Alamouid and had sent it back. Actually 2 of the first 12 checks the II ever got came from Alamoudi, one was marked "loan. Both were for $10,000, (exactly the amount by the way that Alamoudi's Libyan tranactions typically were according the the court filings). These have been published in full facsimile by Insight Mag. Grover is like Clinton or any other pathologial liar, he only admits to a bit at a time, and then only after its been outed and proven and when he can make no longer credibly "deny and make counteraccusations."

He originally denied Al Arian had been to his office, that he had taken any foreign money (turns out it is the overhwelming majority of his Institutes' money, and some $50,000 of it came from people and entities raided for terror financing. he denied having anything to do with the WH Muslim outreach until Muslim and Arab ledes and spoksemen began publicly thanking him, etc., etc. etc.) He has traveled all over appearing on platfroms and panels and at conferences with and chaired by Alamoudi and Al Arian, but counting on his audience not to know that, he skirts it, denies he knows them as often as she can, and then cleans up with being happy they now are in jail! He was not duped, he is duping anyone he can get away with duping. And anyway, "dupes" and naives aren't supposed to be advising White Houses, and being leaders.

Gafney et all are not suggesting the should be run out "on a rail." A canard. Nor is Gaffney suggesting that he is a traitor. Simply that Norquist has, wittingly done bad things on this from, that he stubbornly persists, and that he should desist for the good of the Presdient, party, and doubtless his own good as well as that of the rest of us. Saying that he is now glad they are in jail allows him to dodge having to fess us to his relations with them; it's a bit of post hoc me-tooism; it also reminds of the chicken thief who wants credit for not this day having stolen a chicken. All the things Gaffney said about Khan and Tulbah are true, easiy researched; as were all the things Gaffney and his people were arguing about Alamoudi and Al Arian, etc., 2 years ago when warning against bringing them around the President. Grover supported them. kept the doors open for them, and attacked Gaffney for suggesting that the FBI Director should not speak at their events. Now they are facing life sentences for terrorism support! Duh! Grover owes Frank, Gaffney and all he has slimed as "racists and bigots" huge public apology. Gaffney has been right time and again on national security issues for longer than Grover has been a player. There is no equivalance here between Gaffney and Norquist. One was right about the right thing, and one was and is wrong about the wrong thing.

Anyway , no one is suggesting the shoudl be run out "on a rail." Nor is Gaffney suggesting that he is a traitor.

People on this board have done just that either directly or by innuendo. That is what I have been objecting to. Also, I have not criticized Gaffney. We have had him on RadioFR and I find him to be sincere and a fine researcher.

Norquist has some 'splaining to do and I hope he does so quickly and thoroughly. Until he does that, I suggest we ignore the "hang him from the nearest tree" crowd. He deserves the benefit of the doubt until the entire story can be addressed from both sides.