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To: rmlew
...instead of admitting a mistake Norquist rather grandstands and hide behind Political correctness, good Muslims, and the President. He despoils these...

As far as I can tell, Norquist is pretty much the same independently-minded conservative he always has been. Let me tell you what has changed.

Using the anonimity of the Internet, small-minded and jealous men, of little personal accomplishment, can throw stones at their betters. I have seen that sad and sorry personality defect on display from such as you since my first day at FR. Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, Alan Keyes, Pat Buchanan- don't try and emulate their decades of principled achievement, just sign up with a screen name, and let the slander flow. For a certain kind of personality, ripping into true heroes of conservatism somehow narrows the accomplishment gap.

Well, you're not going to get away with it unscathed, as long as I'm around.

193 posted on 12/10/2003 12:44:50 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
I'm not independent. Click on my profile.
As for making scurilous attacks, Pat Buchanan has done this many times.

For God's sake, get off the us-them modality and pay attention to the big picture.
Just as the Catholic Churches fear of bad press was a reason for the failure to deal with the abuse problems, so to your KNEE-JERK defense of Norquist blinds you to the problem. Look what happened to the Catholic Church in this country. "Catholic Priest" has become a synonymm for pedophile. It isn't fair.(It is also not just a Catholic problem. Jews blacks and other groups that are or percieve themselves as persecuted follow the same DESTRUCTIVE behavior.
The Betlway establishment is making the same mistake by not repudiating the Islamists.
I can warn you only so long before your fear or general damage to Republicans and conservatives becomes self-fulfilling.
Cut the cancer out early or late. The need is the same. Only the scope of the damage differs.

194 posted on 12/10/2003 12:53:50 AM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Norquist has turned into a pimp only interested in his own importance.

Frank Gaffney got it right! He is now no better than a left wing hack using left wing hack tactics to attack his old friends who don't buy his trinkets any longer.

To use "racism" to denounce those who disagree and to blantantly lie about things they say and write is disgusting.

I say good riddance to Norquist. I hope he's in the path of the next terrorist attacks in the United States. That would be justice.
196 posted on 12/10/2003 12:57:36 AM PST by Fledermaus (Fascists, Totalitarians, Baathists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats - what's the difference?)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
You write: "For a certain kind of personality, ripping into true heroes of conservatism somehow narrows the accomplishment gap. "

And what is Gaffney? chopped liver, or are you clueless? And Mona Charen, and David Horowitz, and Cal Thomas, etc.

Get out of the personality ditch and look at the facts and decide if you think it's all one 5-year-long series of mistakes by Norquist -- and that this "hero" with all his imputed intrepidity could not in all of America find, in that time or now, Muslims who are not associated in any/any/any way with terror and its supporters --- or who can find a way to fund this exercise with non-Gulf state money? And is the mere suggestion that there are enough troubling connections to warrant such a search being undertaken somehow "small minded," destructive and counter to "principled achievement?"
267 posted on 12/11/2003 2:26:07 AM PST by Trollstomper (Trollstomper)
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