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To: hchutch
1. The distrust I have is strong enough that it is far better for the government to not intervene. There are adequete laws to cover the threat, but the usual safeguards fromt heBill of Rights need to apply.
Certain loose interpretation of rights and court-created rights will need to be reassesed. We cannot give up our rights and remain America. We cannot remain liberal and survive a culture war and clash of civilizations.

2. Again, explain to me why I should trust ANY governmental involvement in cultural issues, much less to decide which norms are used. What I see in the plain wording of the Constitution does not favor any religion, nor does it grant any authority for the federal government to be involved in matters of culture.
All laws are based on social and CULTural norms, by nature. There is no neutrality in the end.
We are a Western Christian nation. We simply have no denomination.
I would also note that I trust the opinions of our Founders on Church-State Constitutional issues over those of the ACLU.

189 posted on 12/10/2003 12:14:15 AM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: rmlew; Poohbah
1. To be very blunt, the people talking "culture war" scare me as much as the left-wingers do. I also dispute the clash of civilizations - I have posted earlier, outlining where the Koran does NOT condone the terrorism of al-Qaeda and others. There is substantial reason to believe that we are fighting those who would hijack Islam for the purposes of gaining power, something that has happened to other religions in the past.

2. The culture whose loss you decry did NOT protect the religious freedom of my ancestors. I also wonder if blacks would also trade today's culture for the one you miss. I'm sorry, but you have not made the case that those cultural norms are better than today's.
205 posted on 12/10/2003 5:57:28 AM PST by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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