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To: Taxman
Norquist is not a traitor.
16 posted on 12/09/2003 5:37:37 AM PST by Bob J (www.freerepublic.net www.radiofreerepublic.com...check them out!)
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To: Bob J
Norquist is not a traitor.

Perhaps not, but it appears he has some 'splainin' to do. Looking forward to his response...

21 posted on 12/09/2003 5:43:49 AM PST by Damocles (sword of...)
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To: Bob J
Maybe not, but Gaffney is quite convincing. Norquist needs to answer point for point. This is truly disturbing.
39 posted on 12/09/2003 7:42:31 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Bob J

#16: Norquist is not a traitor.

I'm going to take comments from several of your posts at once.

Norquist is past the point where even credible evidence of sheer stupidity would make a difference as a rhetorical defense, although perhaps it might as a legal one.

Traitor or stooge? At some point, it doesn't matter.

Norquist was buddied up with Sami Al Arian when it was known that Al Arian was, at best, pro-terrorist, and was under investigation for worse.

Norquist's colleague and partner, Khaled Saffuri, co-founder with him of the Islamic Institute, donated money to the Holy Land Foundation, which sponsors the children of homicide bombers.

#22: I agree with what you state. Norquist's considerable conservative credentials precludes ad hominem attacks but sensible questions are justified and Norquist should address each of them.

Sensible questions have been justified for the better part of a year, and Norquist is the one who's resorted to ad hominems against Gaffney and anyone else questioning his cozy Islamist ties.

Norquist's so-called "conservative credentials" are a mixed bag. In addition to facilitating Washington access for terror symps, and worse, he's also a known pro-Amnesty apologist for Illegal Aliens.

Norquist's wrecklessness is as appalling as that of those in the Clinton Administration who provided access for drug dealers and Red Chinese arms merchants.

#22: I would add that Norquists criticism of portions of the Patriot Act (and be extension the Muslim groups) sound exactly like the positions held by many FReepers on this board. To use that as a basis for condemnation is inconsistent.

That's disingenuous, unless you can show where said Freepers helped provide access for terror symps.

To question aspects of the Patriot Act because they may infringe on the liberties of loyal Americans is a far cry from doing so while aiding and abetting pro-jihadists.

#24: Why the focus on Norquist?

Because so many pro-terrorist roads lead to his door, at which point, he opened other doors.

#24: It seems like FBI, CIA, NSA and others are responsible for national security and they should have stopped the contacts prior to them getting an audience the White House. The fact they did is prima facie evidence even the Gov was unaware.

Or Clintonized. Like we didn't know that.

#24: To hold Norquist to a higher standard than the US Gov is ridiculous.

Straw man. Norquist is the logical starting point of any investigation. We'll get to the others in due course.

#24: As I see it, looks like everyone got fooled regarding these deep moles and their hidden affiliations. Giving Norquist 40 lashes over it is nothing but a diversion.

Your comment is a diversion.

Not everyone was fooled, but Norquist went on the attack against anyone who questioned his clearly dubious choices in pro-terrorist friends.


43 posted on 12/09/2003 8:01:54 AM PST by Sabertooth (Credit where it's due: saveourlicense.com prevented SB60, and the Illegal Alien CDLs... for now.)
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To: Bob J
Well, Bob, if, by his actions and contacts, he facilitates Moslem atrocities against US citizens by placing fanatic Moslem jihadists in/near the US government, he is.

Sorry -- that is the way I see it.

I grew up believing, and still believe, that if you sleep with dogs, you will get fleas. IOW, we are known by the company we keep.

Radical Islamacists have no place in the White House or any other government building, IMHO, except, perhaps, Guantanamo or some other Federal lockup.
132 posted on 12/09/2003 7:28:42 PM PST by Taxman
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