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Pal: Brutes fought to get turn at rape
New York Daily News ^ | December 9, 2003 | SCOTT SHIFREL

Posted on 12/09/2003 1:29:54 AM PST by sarcasm

The five homeless men who gang-raped a woman in a hut near Queens' Flushing Meadows-Corona Park last December clawed at one another to get a turn at violating the victim, one of the fiends said yesterday.

"All the others were outside and they kept saying, 'Time's up,'" Luis Carmona, 22, told a Queens judge. "I was there for only about a minute, but they were yanking, they were pulling on me."

Carmona pleaded guilty yesterday to rape, kidnapping and robbery and agreed to testify against the others in exchange for a lighter sentence of 20 to 23 years. He is the second of five men charged with the Dec. 19, 2002, rape to cop a plea.

Last week, Victor Cruz, 22, took the same deal and recounted how the thugs spied on the 43-year-old woman and her male companion at the Long Island Rail Road station near Shea Stadium before the attack.

The woman, a mother of two, begged for mercy as she was dragged down a ladder, stripped below the waist and thrown into a plywood hut at a homeless camp near the park.

Carmona tried to downplay his role in the horrific attack.

"She was quiet," he said in Spanish, acknowledging through a translator that the woman had been crying. "That's why I spoke to her. ... I asked her if she was okay, if she wanted to go home or what."

He later said that he and his four cohorts had sex with the woman against her will.

A hearing on statements made to prosecutors by the remaining three defendants - Jose Hernandez, 23, Armando Juvenal, 21, and Carlos Rodriguez, 23 - continues today.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrantlist
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The NYPD arrested five aliens in connection with that assault. According to records that the Judiciary Committee has received from the INS, four of those aliens entered the United States illegally. Three of those four had extensive arrest histories in New York City. The fifth alien, a lawful permanent resident, also had a criminal history prior to the December 19, 2002, attack.
1 posted on 12/09/2003 1:29:55 AM PST by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
So this is what our liberal society is creating??
2 posted on 12/09/2003 1:32:14 AM PST by GeronL (My tagline for rent..... $5 per month or 550 posts/replies, whichever comes first... its a bargain!!)
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To: sarcasm
These 'men' are nothing more than rabid animals who do not DESERVE to live in our country. They should be confined to some sort of permanent prison encampment on anartica or something. Let all the liberals colonize anartica with them!

You've posted a total of 1,037 threads and 18,355, 18,356 replies.

3 posted on 12/09/2003 1:35:59 AM PST by GeronL (My tagline for rent..... $5 per month or 550 posts/replies, whichever comes first... its a bargain!!)
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To: sarcasm
The homeless undocumented workers were only celebrating the diversity. Move along, nothing to see here.
4 posted on 12/09/2003 2:00:19 AM PST by Gigantor (You're in America now; SPEAK AMERICAN!)
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To: GeronL
I'd like to rent your tagline space, but I can only afford $2.50 a month. Will you subdivide?
5 posted on 12/09/2003 3:29:14 AM PST by kitkat
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To: Gigantor
Wait, something is amiss here. Chuckie Schumer still insists that he is making the city so much safer by outlawing guns. What a rathole of a city.
6 posted on 12/09/2003 3:38:05 AM PST by doosee
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The NYC police are making the city much safer by ticketing people who sit on crates in from of stores and fathers whose children's ballons burst, and of course, the wet dream of every NYC cop, arresting anyone with an illegal gun.

Meanwhile NYC Republican* Bloomberg says he doesn't know why anyone would need a gun. I wonder how many taxpayer dollars he spends annually on personal protection to keep the hoi polloi away from him. Oddly enough NYC voters seem to like it this way. I suppose if you've grown up with your tongue on a jackboot, you have a hard time thinking life can be any different.

' '

*NYC Republican = liberal Democrat in the real parts of the country

7 posted on 12/09/2003 3:47:14 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: sarcasm
Is Bloombug still discouraging cops from notifying the INS when they come across illegals?
8 posted on 12/09/2003 3:52:04 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: kitkat
LOL. I wish I could do that Ricky Ricardo laugh from I Love Lucy
9 posted on 12/09/2003 4:00:26 AM PST by GeronL (My tagline for rent..... $5 per month or 550 posts/replies, whichever comes first... its a bargain!!)
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To: mewzilla
If they are foreign nationals these perverts Bloomberg just might seek a pass for them. I still remember the case of a woman (Dutch?) and her New Yorker boyfriend who left their baby on the sidewalk while then went to a restaurant or bar. Not only did she get with "It's done in my country" arguments, she even sued and won.
10 posted on 12/09/2003 4:03:57 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3
I've got an idea for a new TV reality show. It could be shot in NYC. My title: Law & Disorder.
11 posted on 12/09/2003 4:10:10 AM PST by mewzilla
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Is Bloombug still discouraging cops from notifying the INS when they come across illegals?

Yes.

12 posted on 12/09/2003 1:27:42 PM PST by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: sarcasm
I wish that police dog who nailed these guys had ripped their heads off.
13 posted on 12/09/2003 3:03:45 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Don't avoid. Read Joe Guzzardi.)
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To: sarcasm
Execute them, and return their stinking corpses to our pal Mr. Fox in Mexico.
14 posted on 12/09/2003 3:05:07 PM PST by petercooper (Proud VRWC Neanderthal)
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
15 posted on 12/10/2003 12:06:57 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: kitkat
Yeah get two more to sublet that tagline and it will be a real bargain.
16 posted on 12/10/2003 12:17:47 AM PST by oceanperch (Having hernia surgery Dec.11 Freeper prayer Please.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
On both ends.
17 posted on 12/10/2003 12:19:12 AM PST by oceanperch (Having hernia surgery Dec.11 Freeper prayer Please.)
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To: sarcasm
Not to worry, Bloomberg has made the city so much safer by going after those illegal ashtrays.
18 posted on 12/10/2003 12:41:39 AM PST by Looking4Truth
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To: doosee
Maybe he Schumer should outlaw illegal penises.
19 posted on 12/10/2003 12:59:05 AM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: LoudRepublicangirl
"Maybe he Schumer should outlaw illegal penises."

That was done many years ago in New York State statutes. Take a look at their divorce laws.

If you've got one, practically speaking, you're illegal.
20 posted on 12/10/2003 5:56:00 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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