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U.S. RE-ISSUES TERRORIST STAMP!!
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| By Tom Barrett
Posted on 12/08/2003 7:06:15 PM PST by webber
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To: Dialup Llama
You can't be serious. The stamp says literally "Blessed Eid" (Eid Mubaarak), which is the standard Eid greeting. The 'two towers' are the long a (aa) and part of the k in Mubaarak. They are letters. That's the only way they can be written, even in calligraphy. They have to be 'tall'. Try writing a 't' in calligraphy without making it tall, or an 'l'. Same idea. T's and L's may look different in different styles of calligraphy, but if they aren't taller than a short letter like an 'a', they aren't exactly a 't' or an 'l', are they?
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posted on
12/08/2003 11:12:40 PM PST
by
Kaiwen
To: Kaiwen
>That's the only way they can be written, even in calligraphy.
Look at some examples of decorative calligraphy. They can make birds and all sorts of stuff out of letters. To make Twin Towers out of letters would not be a problem. Look at the letters. Other designs are possible. One alternative design would be to emphasize large, circular loops. Instead the calligrapher highlighted extended, dual vertical strokes, making Two Towers out of them with debris falling from out.
To: Dialup Llama
Instead the calligrapher highlighted extended, dual vertical strokes, making Two Towers out of them with debris falling from out.In the Arabic alphabet, even in highly decorative calligraphy (which this is not--it's pretty close to how Arabic is printed in most books), there are rules that need to be followed. To write mubaarak you need to write an extended aa, which is done be extending an alif (a) out of the preceeding consonant. As the alif is what is called a disjointed letter (not joined with the letter that follows), 'baa' looks like a backwards J. The other 'tower' is the Arabic 'k'. Like 'k', it is written with a tall portion, so it looks similar to a J with a flat bottom. In the case of the word 'mubaarak', k is preceded by an Arabic 'r' (its the little squiggle between and slightly below your 'two towers'). The Arabic 'r' is what is also a disjointed letter, so the r and the k are not connected, which is why the tall part of k stands alone.
The 'extended, dual vertical strokes' are neccessary for the word mubaarak to be written.
Either the calligrapher was only following the standard rules of the Arabic alphabet, or he was a member of a vast Muslim conspiracy and had full knowledge of 9/11 months (if not years--I don't know when the calligraphy was done) before it happened. I know which choice is the more rational one.
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posted on
12/08/2003 11:45:19 PM PST
by
Kaiwen
To: Kaiwen
its the little squiggle between and slightly below your 'two towers'Sorry, actually more of a large comma that starts in the 'baa'. FYI, if you really want to keeping believing in your consiracy theory, I'd focus on why the r starts in the 'baa'.
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posted on
12/08/2003 11:49:23 PM PST
by
Kaiwen
To: Kaiwen
Well, you know, it's probably most likely that the people who invented the calligraphy style in the first place, all those ages ago, were told by the Space Masters, in orbit around Telos, the tenth planet, where the moogoo men live, that 9/11 was going to happen one day, when the stars were right, and so they invented this style of calligraphy just to coincide with it, as a signal to all followers of the Space Masters to rise up and kill all zionist pig doo-doo heads everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!
And if you listened to Jeff Rense, like me, you'd know that, too! : )
To: Kaiwen
>Either the calligrapher was only following the standard rules of the Arabic alphabet, or he was a member of a vast Muslim conspiracy and had full knowledge of 9/11 months (if not years--I don't know when the calligraphy was done) before it happened.
You mean like this conspiracy? This calendar is for the month of Sept, 2001. Is it a wild coincidence, or an instance of pre-knowledge?
To: Dialup Llama
That's the airliner that was shot down over Long Island Sound (enlarge the photo and look closely).
Some say it was the result of a shoulder-fired missile.
After thousands of hours of investigation, the FAA publicly states they do not know what happened.
This calendar indicates someone does.
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posted on
12/09/2003 9:41:10 AM PST
by
ppaul
To: jedwardtremlett
To: Dialup Llama
Yes I know. According to the precise rules of Arabic script, the calligrapher had to make the composition exactly this way.
To: TheAngryClam
What the heck are you on anyway? Your post makes as much sense as Frosty The Snowman in Saudi Arabia. Do you understand what I just wrote? No? Well, neither do I of YOUR post.
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posted on
12/09/2003 7:14:44 PM PST
by
webber
(The Constitution, Declaration of Independence, The Federalist Papers were based on Christianity.)
To: Kaiwen
Just out of pure curiosity, are you of Islamic or Arab descent? If you aren't, what made you want to study Arabic? Are you sympathetic toward the Islamist Terrorist, or are you a Gung Ho American? Or are you just plain confused?
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posted on
12/09/2003 7:25:19 PM PST
by
webber
(The Constitution, Declaration of Independence, The Federalist Papers were based on Christianity.)
To: Kaiwen; ambrose; onyx
Man, the nutbars are working overtime in this one. Kaiwen, you can lead a horse to water...
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posted on
12/09/2003 7:37:24 PM PST
by
TheAngryClam
(Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
To: webber
Just out of pure curiosity, are you of Islamic or Arab descent?Nope, just a boring whiteboy (mainly Irish/German) that's nominally Christian. My love of beer and bbq ribs forever prevents me from converting to Islam, along with the fact I don't think I'd like to stone anybody, for whatever reason.
If you aren't, what made you want to study Arabic?
I'm a religion nut. Got my bachelor's in Comparative Religions, with a focus on Buddhism. My favorites to study are Buddhism and Islam. I have no idea why, as I would never convert to either. Maybe its because I find the mysticism of both religions fascinating. My Chinese gets me pretty far in terms of studying Buddhism, so I've taught myself a bit of classical Arabic, mainly through books designed to teach Muslims to read the Qu'ran. Pimsleur's Eastern Arabic course has also been a big help in learning a but of the spoken language.
Are you sympathetic toward the Islamist Terrorist, or are you a Gung Ho American?
I'm very unsympathetic to people that would kill me on sight, be they Islamists or whatever. I think the War on Terror is going in the right direction. But I tend not to get gung ho about anything, more for reasons of personal temperament than a lack of principles. But get enough beer in me and I'll argue passionately for just about anything.
Or are you just plain confused?
I'm definately confused, about a great many things.
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posted on
12/09/2003 9:51:21 PM PST
by
Kaiwen
To: Dialup Llama
Nuff duh. I figured what you were talking about.
And I've been living here in the Gulf since, oh, 98, and I KNOW I've seen Eid greetings done in a style similar to that since well before September 11th.
So, nice try, but no.
J
To: Kaiwen
So basically, you're someone who likes to be well-informed about something BEFORE spouting their mouth off. : )
*slides that poster a beer*
J
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