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To: gubamyster
It's not that our immigration laws don't work---it's just that no one's seriously tried to enforce them for the past 10 years at least. Are we supposed to let our local police department withdraw all personnel from an area, have crime skyrocket as a consequence, and then tolerate arguments from them that the criminal law "doesn't work" and "has to be changed" in order to "recognize the reality of the role violent criminals play in our community"?
6 posted on 12/08/2003 3:20:48 PM PST by Map Kernow (" 'Hate speech' is just 'speech liberals hate' ")
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To: Map Kernow
Are we supposed to let our local police department withdraw all personnel from an area, have crime skyrocket as a consequence, and then tolerate arguments from them that the criminal law "doesn't work" and "has to be changed" in order to "recognize the reality of the role violent criminals play in our community"?

Are we supposed to let our local police catch and release known criminals?

I don't think anyone is talking about removing police from an area or their jobs and becoming solely immigration officers. I think what most people want is that asinine rules like Special Order 40 and ludicrous policies like sanctuary zones are eliminated. There is no reason in their normal course of doing their jobs, that the police, who we are paying “to protect and serve” the taxpayers, refuse to question illegals about their status or report illegals to immigration.

8 posted on 12/08/2003 3:37:02 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: Map Kernow
it's just that no one's seriously tried to enforce them for the past 10 years at least.

"At least" is right. It's closer to 30 years. It started slowly in the 60s, picked up steam in the 70s, the 80s brought us the "one time only" amnesty, and the 90s were even worse. This has to stop.

10 posted on 12/08/2003 3:40:33 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: Map Kernow
Are we supposed to let our local police department withdraw all personnel from an area, have crime skyrocket as a consequence, and then tolerate arguments from them that the criminal law "doesn't work" and "has to be changed" in order to "recognize the reality of the role violent criminals play in our community"?

Unfortunately that is exactly the way we have done it. I may live to see the return of Jesus, but will never live to see our country healed again.

11 posted on 12/08/2003 3:41:16 PM PST by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: Map Kernow
It's not that our immigration laws don't work--

We've also got every kind of pandering politician promising to get them amnesty, free college, free health care --- not a promise anymore --- it's in the new Medicare bill--- and whatever else they want if they come here illegally. Social Security benefits are next for any citizen of Mexico who claims to have used a stolen Social Security number for 18 months.

13 posted on 12/08/2003 4:32:18 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Map Kernow
"recognize the reality of the role violent criminals play in our community"?

Nicely done!

14 posted on 12/08/2003 5:39:20 PM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: Map Kernow
no one's seriously tried to enforce them for the past 10 years at least.

Bump. You are correct, sir. Before Clinton (I hesitate to call that B.C.) there was at least some effort to catch and deport. Employers didn't hire them at will. They would at least run if they saw a cop. Now they spit on us.
17 posted on 12/09/2003 9:09:55 AM PST by johnb838 (Mr Bush, build *us* a wall...)
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