[Reagan Man]

>>>Who knows maybe they are right?

There's absolutely no evidence that says, spending $400 billion on this new Medicare PDP will lead to a privatization of the system.

Just got done listening to conservative Rep.John Shadegg of Arizona. He said "all the reforms went out the window" and that we could have assisted the elderly poor and seniors with catastrophic healthcare costs, without it costing $400 billion in unfunded mandates.

Shadegg is right, of course. But you'll never convince the centrist RINO's and wishy-washy moderates. They all support and enjoy paying for BIG GOVERNMENT.

[FirstPrinciple]

Of course not. The biggest problem in having any govt program is that it is not cost constrained. Health care cost is rising because govt keeps pumping money into the system. Heath care providers know it, pharmaceutical companies know it. There is built-in inflation because the govt purse string is always loose. The same is true for education as well. The cost will be so prohibitive that we have to have a huge tax increase, unless we get enough conservatives in Congress who would vote to end Medicare at that point.

[nonliberal]

But you'll never convince the centrist RINO's and wishy-washy moderates.

Or the Bushbots.