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1 posted on 12/08/2003 8:15:26 AM PST by AreaMan
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To: AreaMan
Interesting. Requires a lot more time and thought than I have right now.

But...
1)corporatism is probably inevitable given population size, and technological level
2)corporatism, or a version of it, used to be called fascism - a delicious irony
3)the alliance of the corporate elites with government began long ago - under Teddy Roosevelt - when the former realized that unrestricted competition was destructive and not in their interests.

2 posted on 12/08/2003 8:29:35 AM PST by liberallarry
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To: AreaMan
Very interesting article. Thanks for posting it
4 posted on 12/08/2003 9:44:15 AM PST by Independentamerican (Independent Freshman at the University of MD)
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To: AreaMan
I've thought for a long time that what we are slouching toward in America is corporatism. We see the government pushing it upon us all the time under various liberal guises.

It's unfortunate, but if the population cannot be trusted to be moral, a free society cannot really exist. John Adams wrote about that.

5 posted on 12/08/2003 10:52:03 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: AreaMan; All
Part of the twisted genius of Bill Clinton was that he came closer to admitting we live in a corporatist society than any previous president

Yes, Clinton rejected the so called "single payer" approach of Mc Dermott [sp?] even though he agreed with it. The "Harry and Louise" ad campaign was financed by smaller health insurance companies who would be put out of business by the Big Five.

Interestingly, only Kucinnich [sp?] said in Fla. "I am NOT an insurance salesman" (repeated three times).

I think where the Corporatist model breaks down is where it violates "Boundary Conditions." Implicit in it is participation of Americans who, at the end of the day, gain in a net sort of way.

"Offshoring" tends to undermine this "consent of the governed" sort of thing.

BTW, nothing says that ultimately the "Corporation" has to be in private hands...the Port Authority of New York and the Tribourough Bridge and Tunnel Authority, as well as the Tennesee Valley Authority come to mind, where the excesses implied in Corporate Outsourcing can be curbed POLITICALLY!

6 posted on 12/08/2003 11:41:49 AM PST by Lael (Bush to Middle Class: Send your kids to DIE in Iraq while I send your LIVELIHOODS to INDIA!)
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To: AreaMan; Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; christie; ...
Short list.
8 posted on 12/08/2003 7:28:09 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: AreaMan
Most interesting.
10 posted on 12/08/2003 10:14:40 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: AreaMan
*Bump for later*
18 posted on 12/09/2003 9:14:16 AM PST by Yardstick
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Johnathan, Johnathan, Johnathan...

19 posted on 10/27/2011 4:15:37 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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