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Liberal Screed (Handout I picked up from last night's Moveon.org house party)
Propaganda Handout. posted on my profile page. ^ | 12/7/03 | Contemporary Liberalism

Posted on 12/08/2003 8:05:08 AM PST by Rebelbase

Last night I went to a "House Party" at a local coffee shop to view the Moveon.org propaganda piece titled, Uncovered: The Whole Truth about the Iraq War.

I walked out after watching about 1/2 of the "documentary"....It was nothing of substance, mostly a video collage of sound bites from liberal players in government positions.

Below is a copy of what was available as a handout at this event. I guess the organizer of the event is the author. No one claimed it as their own...no name.

I typed the propaganda verbatim.

Enjoy the laugh.

Global Priority!

America has for Decades and Decades manipulated the world into a world that we can control in one way or another. Wheather or not it should be this way is a whole other argument.

Could this country exist if we were not able to peddle our wares and products to other countries? And buy theirs?

Could this country live in this extremely small planet box, if we were not able to make sure other countries and their leadership did not do anything to effect or affect the global living conditions? I doubt it.

But to what level do we go? Is it correct for us to virtually make sure that there are limits placed on other co8uuntries just so ours can prosper and live “High on the Hog”?

Think for a second. American’s use 25% of the worlds petroleum production. And only represents 5% of the population. Can we truly state that we want EVERYONE to be a democracy as we are?, Home, Job Cars, 4 Wheelers, 2.5 Kids? Lets do the math, 5%/25%=5. 5 * 100% =500%, As the math simply shows, NO WAY is there enough petroleum produced for that to be a reality, especially since most experts agree we will be on the supplier’s side of the reserves curve very soon, meaning we are running OUT. So if every country we4re to be a mirror image of ours, it would only accelerate the demise by a factor of 5.

Preventing other from getting to our levels, since our planet is self-contained, is not necessarily a bad thing because the air and environmental pollution would be unbearable and un controllable. And of late, if you have been paying attention there has actually been talk of DRILLING ON THE MOON, albeit, loosely related to science this shows people are thinking about the end of petroleum. Aside from the fact that we will all suddenly have cars as Yard art, most factories will cease to operate… this whole scenario is amazing. The Oil companies will never ever honestly let us have a truly self renewing energy source, not as long as they are making TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS so the bottom line is we will probably have to run out before we get something else Or Production costs will have to be so high we have no choice. Leaving our government to make sure we run out last! Even if they have to manufacture a REASON for going to war.

The terrorism we are faced with today is a direct result of our leadership trampling over the people on foreign lands and placing their governments in positions where they have no choices, all in the name of their financial gain. Again remember, it could actually be a beneficial thing for America to see to it that there are still dictators in the world to repress their people so as to prevent them from becoming major consumers. Face it; there is only just so much food reserves jut so much trees, and just so much water. All this arguing about should we have or should we have not, gotten toe approval of the UN is really a waste of time, even though a few countries voiced opposition, if we had taken a vote we would have won. What Bush-ites wanted though was to do one of 2 things, either force them to be unanimously on our side and prove their allegiance, or to embarrass the UN by making appear weak and irrelevant to the Americans and Britons. So, taking anything to the UN is MOSTLY a ceremonial setup as we control the majority of the UN members through clauses contained within the contracts for Aid we have negotiated with those countries we SUPPORT. We preach to the world that we are a Nation of Laws, as example of Democracy and demand the same publicly from them. However according to the laws at the UN, treaties and other conventions, laws we signed and agreed to be bound to, American violated them. Even though Saddam was a bad man and did bad things to his people legally we should have not intervened without UN approval a UN that is not held hostage by our leaders. Say what you ant but several sources have proven that the war plan was outlined by the Project for a New American Century in the 1990’s long before anyone did anything to the towers and right about the time UNOCAL decided it could not do its pipeline till “the government of Afghanistan was stabilized”. Hopefully you have read everything you can get your hands on and don your research. If you had then you would know as it is widely reported, Clinton handed Bush a file telling him there as a ”High Probability” that there was going to attacks using jets. Several intelligence agencies from around the world also told Bush that we were in danger. He did nothing, not one damn thing. What is more troubling to me then anything is the fact that there are people out there with nuclear weapons that are pissed off, and I’m talking about North Korea, Pakistan and India. Anger makes people and governments do things that they might not otherwise do.

We can go on and on about it, the War”on Terrorism” will never end as defined, Rumsfeld said so with his own mouth telling the world to “Think of it like this, try to imagine the world never needing a policeman”. Americans that say they are against the war, and I am against tit as well, will be pounding their fists on the desks, demanding war if they were told that suddenly we cannot drive, or work or GOD forbid have to grown our own food or chop whatever wood is left for warmth. So long as we live this way we will be going to wars.

Try reading Normon Solomon, and Reese Erlich’s book Target Iraq: What the news media didn’t tell you . And read the Greatest Sedition is Silence by William Rivers Pitt, His is simply the best book written about the events of late looking at it from the big picture.

The only Real Way to rid us of wars is to make a NEW Energy source a GLOBAL priority and clean out the White House now.


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1 posted on 12/08/2003 8:05:09 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase
Just out of curiosity; where was this held and what was the crowd reaction like?
2 posted on 12/08/2003 8:07:26 AM PST by God luvs America
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To: Rebelbase
>>>>>>>>>>Think for a second. American’s use 25% of the worlds petroleum production. And only represents 5% of the population. Can we truly state that we want EVERYONE to be a democracy as we are?, Home, Job Cars, 4 Wheelers, 2.5 Kids? Lets do the math, 5%/25%=5. 5 * 100% =500%,

Wow! MoveOn.Gripe has mathematically proved that we should all be in favor of nuclear power /sarcasm off/
3 posted on 12/08/2003 8:07:27 AM PST by .cnI redruM ( l = w + w. Two wrongs equal a left.)
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To: Rebelbase
It's really not funny...in the top third they basically blame America for the tragedy of 9-11....and this is the group Al Whore gives lectures to!!
4 posted on 12/08/2003 8:09:40 AM PST by God luvs America
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To: Rebelbase
Americans that say they are against the war, and I am against tit as well

Sheesh, these losers don't like ANYTHING!

5 posted on 12/08/2003 8:11:17 AM PST by JennysCool
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To: Rebelbase
Long on tired, old, anti-capitalism arguments, and very short on substance. I particularly like this one:
And of late, if you have been paying attention there has actually been talk of DRILLING ON THE MOON, albeit, loosely related to science this shows people are thinking about the end of petroleum.
ROTFLOL!!!!
6 posted on 12/08/2003 8:11:21 AM PST by The_Victor
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To: Rebelbase
Think for a second. American’s use 25% of the worlds petroleum production. And only represents 5% of the population

The real question is what do we produce with 25% of the world's oil...

7 posted on 12/08/2003 8:14:06 AM PST by 2banana
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To: Rebelbase
Is it totally impossible to be both a liberal and capable of following standard grammar. This crap was unreadable.
8 posted on 12/08/2003 8:14:51 AM PST by Onelifetogive
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To: Rebelbase
BWAHAHAHAHA. They boost that psycho Will Pitt. Good for them. He can drive the bush right off the cliff with the nutbags all on board.
9 posted on 12/08/2003 8:15:41 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: 2banana
Or the question should be of all the oil produced in the world how much of it has been extracted thanks to American technology??!!
10 posted on 12/08/2003 8:16:04 AM PST by God luvs America
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To: Rebelbase
Think for a second. American’s use 25% of the worlds petroleum production. And only represents 5% of the population. Can we truly state that we want EVERYONE to be a democracy as we are?, Home, Job Cars, 4 Wheelers, 2.5 Kids? Lets do the math, 5%/25%=5. 5 * 100% =500%, As the math simply shows,

Think for a second. This little screed has 17 grammar errors in only 10 paragraphs. Can we truly state that we want to value HIS opinion on anything? Spelling errors – 26, run-on sentences – 8, incoherent thoughts – 12, factual errors – 13, logical inconsistencies – 18. Let’s do the math 17/10 * 26 * 8 * 12 * 13 * 18/ 10 * 3. 14159 = 1246.1009812. As the math simply shows, NO WAY is there even a single iota of brain matter in this boy’s head that is not already maxed to the limit by the simple exertions of breathing and digesting food.

11 posted on 12/08/2003 8:16:10 AM PST by dead (I used to believe in a lot of things. All of it! Now I believe only in dynamite.)
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To: Rebelbase
Wow. Does Howard Dean supply MoveOn with their conspiracies or is it the other way around? Does MoveOn have a heavy libertarian representation?
12 posted on 12/08/2003 8:16:24 AM PST by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: God luvs America
The one I went to was held at a downtown coffee shop that had a wide screen computer projector.

The attendees ranged in age from early 20's to retired folks with 30 somethings being the most predominant. Probably a 2:1 ratio of women to men.

At least 50-70 people, maybe more.

The crowd was very cliquish. During the viewing portions of the crowd were audibly whining and having hissy fits when the president was shown on the screen. When the issue of possible Nuclear weapons development was mentioned there were laughter outbursts.

I made up my mind to leave when some CIA analyst said the Bush Admin. did not pay any attention to an admission by Saddam's Son, who was in charge of the WMD back in 1991, that "I ordered all Chemical and Biological weapons destroyed".

13 posted on 12/08/2003 8:18:47 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: The_Victor
Drilling on the moon is easy. It's that Moon-to-earth oil pipeline that will be a bear!

Logical thinking is not these people's strong suit. First they argue that liberals can't ever allow the third world to reach our levels of consumption because the world is "self-contained". Then they tell us it is the capitalists who want to prevent these people from becoming consumers.
14 posted on 12/08/2003 8:18:52 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: Rebelbase
Yikes. Someone please explain basic grammar and English usage to the person(s) writing this dross.

Anyway, I saw one of those commercials and my first impression was that the budget for Iraq has nothing to do with the other needs they mentioned (e.g. fixing the electrical grid). Also, if they were truly serious about solving all of these other problems, they would be petitioning the government to stop the money going into the space exploration program and use that for these other problems right here. I mean, hey, their beef is we're sending the money to another COUNTRY; well, you'd think they'd be upset that we spend money on other PLANETS. You have to follow their warped logic, which in reality is no logic at all.

Thanks for the post on this topic.
15 posted on 12/08/2003 8:18:56 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Rebelbase
Again remember, it could actually be a beneficial thing for America to see to it that there are still dictators in the world to repress their people so as to prevent them from becoming major consumers.

I know the Nazi-canard is overused, but this guy’s reasoning seems to be right up that alley.

Are you sure this isn’t a parody?

16 posted on 12/08/2003 8:19:18 AM PST by dead (I used to believe in a lot of things. All of it! Now I believe only in dynamite.)
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To: randog
Dean supporters were visble in the crowd....lots of Dean 2004 tee-shirts.
17 posted on 12/08/2003 8:19:31 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: JennysCool
"I am against tit as well"

LMAO! My bad, that is a typo that spell check skipped!

18 posted on 12/08/2003 8:20:35 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

did they serve whine...?

19 posted on 12/08/2003 8:20:38 AM PST by Geronimo
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To: 2banana
I've always been confused by the oil conservation argument. After all, oil is a finite resource. For all practical purposes, it will run out no matter how slowly we use it. We're concerned about our grandchildren? Well, what about our great-great-grandchildren? And their grandchildren? You give me a percentage reduction, and I'll tell you what generation we're gonna be "screwing" by using up all their oil. So what's the point in conserving it?

I can understand the position that conservation can help us reduce our dependence on foreign oil. But perhaps the people who make these arguments are unaware of the advances in the liquefaction of coal---that is, the conversion of coal to oil. It can now be done for about $30 a barrel! And we have enough coal in this country to supply our energy needs for about 300 years.

So the bottom line to me is, if we really felt the need to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil, we could do it without conservation.. plus, no matter what we decide to do it's inevitable that we will have to turn to alternative sources of energy in the future anyway. So research on solar, wind, tidal, fusion, etc. power must go on; and by the time we truly need it we'll be ready!

20 posted on 12/08/2003 8:22:20 AM PST by mcg1969
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