[stuartcr]

I know, and the idea that no heaven or hell would make everyone in the world turn into a crazed rapist/murderer, is ludicrous.

[17th Miss Regt]

I did not say that. Only that in the absence of restraints imposed by religion and the rule of law, the world would be a lot worse off.

[August West]

Actually, even an atheist like myself can plainly see that religion keeps us from all being murderers, rapists, ...i.e. basically animals.