[AmishDude]

We are not all lazy and greedy, not rule #1.

You are so wrong. We seek as much pleasure as we can while expending as little effort as possible. Even "altruism" provides emotional benefit.

Legal systems do not require the presence of God, look at many ancient societies.

Which dead civilization would you like to point to? Note that their lack of current existance proves my point.

[stuartcr]

I really don't believe that you speak for all of humanity. Roman law comes to mind, as does Hammurabbi, Greeks, Egypt, China, Japan, the Pacific Islands, India, etc. All societies come to an end eventually, as I'm pretty sure ours will.