Libertarians turn against Neil Boortz [Title Mine]

Neal's Nuze ^ | December 8th, 2003 | Neil Boortz

[trajanus_red]

It is not established or true that Iraq had no relationship with the attacks on American soil. In fact, there is evidence of the contrary: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34841

[sheltonmac]

Protagoras: Going to war at the beheast of world government?
optimistically_conservative: The UN asked us to go to war with Iraq? Strange, I thought the argument was we unilaterally went to war with Iraq without the world's permission, but did it based on the statutory powers granted by Congress

If having the United States running around the globe enforcing U.N. resolutions isn't a world government, then what is?

[Liberal Classic]

Bless you, Neal.

[optimistically_conservative]

If having the United States running around the globe enforcing U.N. resolutions isn't a world government, then what is?

>sarcasm<Our government?>/sarcasm<

The US led the war against Iraq in 1991, the US negotiated the cease fire directly with Iraq on the battlefield, the US codified that cease fire in the UNSCR 678, the US kept the lid on Iraq for the last 12 years.

We weren't running around the globe enforcing the UN's resolutions, we were driving into Baghdad against the UN's wishes enforcing our own resolutions we pushed through the UN.

The truth is, concerning Iraq, we used the UN for diplomatic cover while pursuing our agenda, and when they balked, we dropped them and went in anyway.

You will find that I am much more sympathetic to the concern that the US government is currently the world governing body than worrying if the US government is subordinating itself to the UN at this time.

That should be fairly evident, although the precedent it sets opens us up to the charges of hypocrisy for not running around enforcing the UN resolutions we don't like. Fine, see my previous point above.

[optimistically_conservative]

I hate when I screw that up:

<sarcasm>Our government?</sarcasm>

[DeuceTraveler]

"I have no intergenerational commitment to anyone except my progeny and generations of Americans to come. I am commited to doing my best to return the country to it's freedom roots."

And you don't believe freedom abroad helps freedom at home? If the entire world was Communist except the United States it would crush us ideologically. We are already being attacked ideologically due to the lack of freedom in the world. How can we compare the progress of a liberal economy compared to a state economy when we are one of only a few nations that have a liberal economy and we have those in our country that swear it is American social programs that make us great and not our businesses?

[LowCountryJoe]

Ya know, I really like the fact that you've used the word "liberal" when referring to our economy. In fact, I think that we should don the box-cutters and hijack the word; taking it back from the socialists in the "central planner party". Imagine the confusion!

From now on I'm going to call myself a "liberal" but with the qualifier that it's meant in the classical sense.

[185JHP]

Attacking Bob Barr, one of the finest conservative men in politics, because he wasn't in favor of their drug-lusting degeneracy kind of exposed the druggietarians.

[Protagoras]

And you don't believe freedom abroad helps freedom at home?

If you think we can spread freedom abroad by attacking other countries and nation building I say you are naive to say the least.

We can help freedom abroad by practicing it here, something we aren't very good at anymore.

[DeuceTraveler]

Heh. You got me onboard.

[185JHP]

Good thinking.

[xrp]

Quite a few libertarians are PRO-ABORTION and PRO-DRUGS and that is why I am a Republican.....

What do you think about the Republicans who are PRO-ABORTION (Johnny Isakson R-Ga, 6th District) and Republicans who are PRO-DRUGS (obviously, Rush Limbaugh)? And that is why I am a libertarian-conservative.

[Central Scrutiniser]

I am libertarian in my beliefs, but I think the party is a huge joke. Boortz has a great show, and I'd love to see him give a great speech there.

[Steven Nason]

Good reply.

It is funny to hear people who call themselves conservatives using the U.N., of all things to justify this when one considers that the best thing to do with the U.N. is to get out of it and it out of America.

As for Boortz, well, as "liberals" are fond of saying about folks who come around to their brand of thinking, "Neal has grown." He has gone from being a typical product of L.P.org to a neo-con on most issues.

A better venue for him would be the American Enterprise Institute. Who knows, Bill Kristol himself might come down to the podium and give Neal a pat on the head for his part in selling this war.