Child sex abuser quits Meyer ministry

St. Louis Post Dispatch ^ | 12/07/03 | Carolyn Tuft and Bill Smith

[Holly_P]

Nearly every Friday night, Pastor Richard L. Jones led volunteers - often teenagers visiting from churches around the region - through St. Louis streets seeking out homeless to help.

During their weekend visits, the teens would spend days and nights at the St. Louis Dream Center, where they knew Jones as one of several pastors.

[Holly_P]

Why did they hire him in first place, if they knew his past?

That's an excellent question since it's very well known that pedophiles when released from prison are likely to abuse again to the tune of about 90%.

[Holly_P]

There are plenty of men who had great wealth in heaven, I hope you get to meet some of them.

Did those men attain their wealth from the poor?

[mountaineer]

I'm not surprised to see Larry Rice's name come up in this sordid tale.

[skraeling]

A Jefferson County assessor's list offers a glimpse into the value of many of the items:

So what's the problem? You would complain that some OT characters had too much land and too many cattle, as though that was any of your business.

Meyer's style isn't my cup of tea, but if God chooses to reward some people more than other, that's not up to me to bitch about. Where do you get your authority to bitch? Sounds like raw envy to me.

[JoeSchem]

Joyce Meyer is the St. Louis area "minister" who has a corporate jet and mansion and has two of her adult children and her husband on the payroll.

My guess is that she'll be among the goats of Matthew 25. "Depart from me, I never knew you!"

[skraeling]

I am not suggesting that ministers should be poor

Yes you are. Your posts reek of hatred and envy. Don't confuse that with self-annoited rightous indignation.

[Holly_P]

You are entitled to think anything you want to think. I think she is in the money business and does very well at it.

[Holly_P]

No hatred and no envy. I wouldn't have her life or life style for all the tea in China. She attained it on the backs of poor people.

[Holly_P]

Where do you get your authority to bitch?

Do I really need "authority" to express my opinion? I certainly do not need your permission.

[skraeling]

Did those men attain their wealth from the poor?

Genesis 24...
    So he said, "I am Abraham's servant.  The LORD has blessed my master
    abundantly, and he has become wealthy. He has given him sheep and cattle,
    silver and gold, menservants and maidservants, and camels and donkeys.

I'll bet you think Abraham obtained and enhanced his wealth by selling diseased sheep and cattle to the poor, buying Kruggerands at firesale prices from the poor, taking advantage of the poor to hire them cheaply as menservants and maidservants, and by peddling gimpy camels and donkeys to the poor.

Envy is a nasty thing.

[Holly_P]

I'll bet you think

If you don't know by now what I think about this "minister" from reading my posts I can't help you

Envy is a nasty thing

Ignorance however, is nastier.

[Kevin Curry]

God chooses to reward some people more than other, that's not up to me to bitch about.

Are you suggesting one can tell how well loved another person is by God according to how wealthy the person is?

Larry Flynt, George Soros, Barbra Steisand, Yassir Arafat, and Saddam Hussein must be very much loved indeed.

[patriot_wes]

Yea, I agree with Holly - there's no reason good people should be successful!

[skraeling]

Are you suggesting one can tell how well loved another person is by God according to how wealthy the person is?

No, not at all. But neither can you discount that God has rewarded someone you don't like, for reasons you don't understand.

Dissing the rich is the domain of 2-bit preachers and envious scoffing sychopants busy "working their way to heaven" by pointing out the evils of the successful, instead of looking in their mirrors.

[Holly_P]

there's no reason good people should be successful

Guess that depends on ones definition of the word "good"

[stands2reason]

So you believe evangelizing should rightfully make you rich?

[stands2reason]

I take it you're Christian? It's a shame you've never heard of "moderation."

I am very pro-Christian, but I can't help but say a Buddhist would never make a comment like yours.

[A.J.Armitage]

That's the most pathetic rationalization I've ever heard.

[Rebelbase]

You're entiltled to your opinion.

[A.J.Armitage]

Did anybody say I wasn't?