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The 'offensiveness' of Jesus
WorldNetDaily.Com ^ | Posted: December 6, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern | © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Posted on 12/07/2003 1:08:45 AM PST by Bobby777

It amazes me that people can still, with a straight face, deny that Christians are the subjects of systematic discrimination in this country. Every time I turn around there's more evidence.

Since my book "Persecution" was released I've seen enough additional examples to give me a good start on a sequel – not that I've decided to write one at this point. But I continue to encounter liberals who pooh-pooh the idea that it is even possible to discriminate against a majority group.

No matter how much proof you show them, they wave their hands dismissively and say, "Those are just loony examples of kooks out there that certainly aren't representative of any widespread discrimination." Well, if that's the case, why do we keep seeing these cases in the news?

Of course, it's not the case. There is an intrinsic bias in our popular culture against Christianity, and it's getting worse. The only thing that isn't clear to me is whether the liberal secularists who deny it are oblivious to the discrimination or are being deceitful. I actually think there is some of both.

Remember, there are numerous aspects to this phenomenon. It's not just the scrubbing away of Christian symbols and expression from the public square, including public property, public schools, universities, efforts to muzzle Christian officials, the anti-Christian litmus test applicable to presidential appointees and anti-Christian discrimination in zoning regulations.

No, it's not just about "separation of church and state," because the bias has now infected the private sector as well – such as dress codes prohibiting the wearing of Christian jewelry, and the anti-Christian bias among the liberal media, Hollywood and the cultural elite – including their profane, anti-Christian art.

Besides, if it were a matter of separating church and state, secularists wouldn't be twisting the government's arm to endorse anti-Christian values, from "comprehensive" sex education to pornography to homosexuality to New Ageism to Secular Humanism to the values of other major religions.

And let's just dispense with this lie that the secularists are motivated by a desire to promote religious freedom and tolerance. Their constant barrages against Christian religious freedom and Christianity itself dispel that myth outright. Just one day this week I ran across three more examples – and I wasn't even looking.

The first involves the Meriden Public Library in Meriden, Conn., which banned five paintings of Jesus Christ, not because they were blasphemous or disrespectful, and not even because of ludicrously exaggerated concerns over church/state interaction.

The images were disallowed under a policy that prohibits "inappropriate" and "offensive" fare. That's right: Jesus is offensive. Library officials were concerned that children might be disturbed by these images. What kind of mindset is it that sees offensiveness in portraits of the One who embodies pure love, and wholly ignores the egregious intolerance of those who want to ban them?

You can't simply brush this off as a silly little incident. It represents an increasingly common attitude in the culture that Christianity, on its face, is offensive. That's a completely different proposition from saying that government shouldn't endorse religion.

In the second example, the Supreme Court heard this week a case concerning Northwest College in Kirkland, Wash., denying student Joshua Davey a $3,000 scholarship because he wanted to use it for the study of divinity. Thankfully the Bush administration is not infected with the anti-Christian virus. U.S. Solicitor General Ted Olson pointed out that the denial of the scholarship shows a government bias against religion (the Christian religion).

This isn't an isolated example. I document a similar case in my book, involving Michael Nash, whose academic scholarship was originally denied by Cumberland College in Williamsburg, Ky., when he declared that he would be majoring in philosophy and religion.

The third example involves Islamic indoctrination in California public schools – a subject also addressed in my book. Seventh-grade history students at Royal Oak Intermediate School in Covina, Calif., didn't just learn about Islam. They practiced the religion, by fasting to celebrate the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. The school clearly endorsed the religion: The teacher enticed students to participate by offering extra credit.

It's one thing for Christians to argue that they should rejoice in their persecution – that's even biblical. But it's an entirely different matter for us to stand by idly as our culture, of which we are supposed to be the majority component, institutionalizes the notion that our Savior is anathema. When is enough going to be enough? When are complacent Christians going to fight back?

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Attorney David Limbaugh documents how liberals are waging war against Christianity in his new top-selling book, "Persecution." Additionally, he is the author of the pull-no-punches expose of corruption in the Clinton-Reno Justice Department, "Absolute Power." Autographed copies of both books are now available in WorldNetDaily's online store.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristianbias; bible; christ; christian; christianity; davidlimbaugh
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1 posted on 12/07/2003 1:08:45 AM PST by Bobby777
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To: Cindy; yonif; Alouette; Yehuda; dennisw; Lent; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; rdb3; mhking; MeeknMing; ...
FReepmail me if you'd like to be on or off this ping list ...
2 posted on 12/07/2003 1:09:23 AM PST by Bobby777
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To: Bobby777
The third example involves Islamic indoctrination in California public schools – a subject also addressed in my book. Seventh-grade history students at Royal Oak Intermediate School in Covina, Calif., didn't just learn about Islam. They practiced the religion, by fasting to celebrate the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. The school clearly endorsed the religion: The teacher enticed students to participate by offering extra credit.

I just wonder how many Americans are less offended by this than a Christmas pageant? ...
3 posted on 12/07/2003 1:37:47 AM PST by Bobby777
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To: Bobby777
Most Americans would rather see a Nativity scene on the front lawn of the school than a class full of kids fasting for Ramalamadingdong.

But there are liberals in powerful places, namely the media and the judiciary, who feel exactly the opposite. They're making every effort to be tolerant to Islam while they seek to abolish Christianity.
4 posted on 12/07/2003 1:44:01 AM PST by watchin
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To: Bobby777
I don't have a problem with DL's book, but I do have a problem with the title. It cheapens the word persecution to apply it to those examples when others around the world are losing life, limb and property because of their faith.
5 posted on 12/07/2003 1:47:05 AM PST by mongrel
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To: watchin
yep ...
6 posted on 12/07/2003 1:48:26 AM PST by Bobby777
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To: mongrel
I understand your sentiment ... obviously he wants to sell the book but is using the title I think to raise the seriousness of the issue ... granted, it's a far different level than that which happens in the Sudan ...

and you don't see Kofi Annan ranting about that do you? ... he's too busy siding with the "Palestinians" ...
7 posted on 12/07/2003 1:50:12 AM PST by Bobby777
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To: Bobby777
The thing I don't get is this: What kind of a country do they think they're gonna get when they replace the Christian element with Islam?

The "religion of peace" will show its teeth about that time. I guess there are liberals/atheists/objectivists/Satanists/secularists who hate Christianity so much they really don't care about the consequences.
8 posted on 12/07/2003 1:53:28 AM PST by watchin
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To: mongrel
I agree. We're dealing with discrimination, not persecution.
9 posted on 12/07/2003 1:54:49 AM PST by watchin
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To: Bobby777
When are complacent Christians going to fight back?

When the mainstream 'churches' actually preach The Word and not a bunch of feel-good once-a-week dose of watered down non-confrontational PC BS.

10 posted on 12/07/2003 2:04:11 AM PST by Looking4Truth
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To: Bobby777; mongrel
Like the Jews in Germany, persecution starts slowly with some rights taken away, some marginalizing and then the loss of more rights... There are many forms of persecution and beginings to persecution often elicit the response: This isn't really bad compared to....

Frogs in a pot.
11 posted on 12/07/2003 2:36:51 AM PST by mlmr (Postig with misspelings for ovr 5 yers)
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To: watchin
It's too bad they can't read! If they would read in the Koran,(Book of Surah is a place to start) they would see that Islam is a violent religion and that it moves the followers to kill all who do not convert or are not Islamic.
Nice country California.
12 posted on 12/07/2003 2:42:16 AM PST by gakrak
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To: gakrak
Is this the Book of Surah?

1. Say: O ye that reject Faith!
2. I worship not that which ye worship
3. Nor will ye worship that which I worship
4. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship
5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship
6. To you be your Way and to me mine

I might not get it - how is this violent? Seems that it is open to many interpretations. Line 6 seems to say you worship in your way and I will worship in my way. Serious question - no 'hidden agendas'. All the English versions of the Koran that I have read (Internet) led me to believe that the book can be interpreted in many ways - most times in ways that support the particular 'political leanings' of the reader.

13 posted on 12/07/2003 4:40:41 AM PST by VaMarVet
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To: mlmr
mlmr, you nailed it. It is a tad hyperbolic to label the apparent bias or discrimination against Christianity in this country...as religious persecution.

However...a pot simmers before it boils. It bares watching IMO.

If we are actually on the road to persecution agaisnt Christians or Christianity...IMO, it will break out in Europe first and then, at some point, it will become global. [not making any predictions here BTW...a simmering pot doesn't neccessarily lead to a boiling one]

If we begin to see that...brush up on your Revelation...brothers and sisters.

And Come LORD Jesus...quickly.

Brian.
14 posted on 12/07/2003 4:40:56 AM PST by bzrd
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To: watchin
Ramalamadingdong

LOL!

15 posted on 12/07/2003 5:53:33 AM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: mongrel
I do have a problem with the title. It cheapens the word persecution

Certainly there are different degrees of persecution. When people lose their jobs because they are Christian, don't you think that is a degree of persecution? This doesn't cheapen what happens to others at all. What we are experiencing here is a precursor of things to come.

16 posted on 12/07/2003 5:59:37 AM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: l8pilot; basil
Thought y'all might find this interesting.
17 posted on 12/07/2003 6:00:19 AM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: watchin
The thing I don't get is this: What kind of a country do they think they're gonna get when they replace the Christian element with Islam?

The truth is they don't think that it will be replaced with Islam. To them Islam is a joke, a fashion statement-they allow it, to show that they are tolerant. The idea that Islam is a world religion like Christianity, and should be held to the same standards as Christianity would never occur to them.

Of course the idea of judging something that you are not a part of, is considered intolerant by today's pc crowd.

18 posted on 12/07/2003 7:10:58 AM PST by Sci Fi Guy
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To: PistolPaknMama
I read David Limbaugh's book a couple of months ago--and he hits the nail squarely on the head!
19 posted on 12/07/2003 7:11:28 AM PST by basil (basil)
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To: Bobby777
Read later bump.........
20 posted on 12/07/2003 7:16:18 AM PST by Osage Orange (Left is Right. Right is Wrong. Up is Down....And Down is now Up. Got that?)
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