The 'offensiveness' of Jesus

WorldNetDaily.Com ^ | Posted: December 6, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern | © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

[Bobby777]

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[Bobby777]

The third example involves Islamic indoctrination in California public schools – a subject also addressed in my book. Seventh-grade history students at Royal Oak Intermediate School in Covina, Calif., didn't just learn about Islam. They practiced the religion, by fasting to celebrate the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. The school clearly endorsed the religion: The teacher enticed students to participate by offering extra credit.

I just wonder how many Americans are less offended by this than a Christmas pageant? ...

[watchin]

Most Americans would rather see a Nativity scene on the front lawn of the school than a class full of kids fasting for Ramalamadingdong.

But there are liberals in powerful places, namely the media and the judiciary, who feel exactly the opposite. They're making every effort to be tolerant to Islam while they seek to abolish Christianity.

[mongrel]

I don't have a problem with DL's book, but I do have a problem with the title. It cheapens the word persecution to apply it to those examples when others around the world are losing life, limb and property because of their faith.

[Bobby777]

yep ...

[Bobby777]

I understand your sentiment ... obviously he wants to sell the book but is using the title I think to raise the seriousness of the issue ... granted, it's a far different level than that which happens in the Sudan ...

and you don't see Kofi Annan ranting about that do you? ... he's too busy siding with the "Palestinians" ...

[watchin]

The thing I don't get is this: What kind of a country do they think they're gonna get when they replace the Christian element with Islam?

The "religion of peace" will show its teeth about that time. I guess there are liberals/atheists/objectivists/Satanists/secularists who hate Christianity so much they really don't care about the consequences.

[watchin]

I agree. We're dealing with discrimination, not persecution.

[Looking4Truth]

When are complacent Christians going to fight back?

When the mainstream 'churches' actually preach The Word and not a bunch of feel-good once-a-week dose of watered down non-confrontational PC BS.

[mlmr]

Like the Jews in Germany, persecution starts slowly with some rights taken away, some marginalizing and then the loss of more rights... There are many forms of persecution and beginings to persecution often elicit the response: This isn't really bad compared to....

Frogs in a pot.

[gakrak]

It's too bad they can't read! If they would read in the Koran,(Book of Surah is a place to start) they would see that Islam is a violent religion and that it moves the followers to kill all who do not convert or are not Islamic.
Nice country California.

[VaMarVet]

Is this the Book of Surah?

1. Say: O ye that reject Faith!
2. I worship not that which ye worship
3. Nor will ye worship that which I worship
4. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship
5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship
6. To you be your Way and to me mine

I might not get it - how is this violent? Seems that it is open to many interpretations. Line 6 seems to say you worship in your way and I will worship in my way. Serious question - no 'hidden agendas'. All the English versions of the Koran that I have read (Internet) led me to believe that the book can be interpreted in many ways - most times in ways that support the particular 'political leanings' of the reader.

[bzrd]

mlmr, you nailed it. It is a tad hyperbolic to label the apparent bias or discrimination against Christianity in this country...as religious persecution.

However...a pot simmers before it boils. It bares watching IMO.

If we are actually on the road to persecution agaisnt Christians or Christianity...IMO, it will break out in Europe first and then, at some point, it will become global. [not making any predictions here BTW...a simmering pot doesn't neccessarily lead to a boiling one]

If we begin to see that...brush up on your Revelation...brothers and sisters.

And Come LORD Jesus...quickly.

Brian.

[PistolPaknMama]

Ramalamadingdong

LOL!

[PistolPaknMama]

I do have a problem with the title. It cheapens the word persecution

Certainly there are different degrees of persecution. When people lose their jobs because they are Christian, don't you think that is a degree of persecution? This doesn't cheapen what happens to others at all. What we are experiencing here is a precursor of things to come.

[PistolPaknMama]

Thought y'all might find this interesting.

[Sci Fi Guy]

The thing I don't get is this: What kind of a country do they think they're gonna get when they replace the Christian element with Islam?

The truth is they don't think that it will be replaced with Islam. To them Islam is a joke, a fashion statement-they allow it, to show that they are tolerant. The idea that Islam is a world religion like Christianity, and should be held to the same standards as Christianity would never occur to them.

Of course the idea of judging something that you are not a part of, is considered intolerant by today's pc crowd.

[basil]

I read David Limbaugh's book a couple of months ago--and he hits the nail squarely on the head!

[Osage Orange]

Read later bump.........