[Happy2BMe]

Isn't this enough evidence to prove Saddam had WMD?

[Happy2BMe]

WMD ping!

[MizSterious]

Good find, thanks for posting it.

[mhking]

Message to the "Snow Hillary and the Nine Dwarves": There's your damned WMD! Now STFU!

Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

[tbpiper]

Isn't this enough evidence to prove Saddam had WMD?

To reasonable people, yes. To deomcrat, no.

[Capt. Tom]

Isn't this enough evidence to prove Saddam had WMD?

I want it to be true,but the facts on the ground show no evidence of this. We find billions of dollars and incredible amounts of hidden munitions but no WMD.

There are plenty of captured Iraqui higher-ups who would lead us to WMD knowing they could benefit monetarily and freedom wise for giving us that info.

People whose family members were killed by Saadam's men would rat them out in a heartbeat. -Tom

[billhilly]

Unless things have changed dramatically, the description of a Lt. Col as a senior member of Saddam's army seems laughable. A Lt. Col in anybody's army is not such a big deal. A line officer yes, but someone who would know the inner workings of a dictator? Not very likely, in my opinion.

[RonF]

No, all we have here is the word of an Iraqi officer who may well be simply trying to curry American favor to improve his situation. Let him lead us to some of these weapons, though, and it'll be a different story.

[blam]

Iraqi colonel: I am WMD claim source

By Andrew Clennell
07 December 2003
Independent (UK)

An Iraqi colonel said yesterday that he was the source of the Government's "dodgy dossier" claim that Iraq could deploy weapons of mass destruction within 45 minutes.

Lieutenant-Colonel al-Dabbagh, who said he was the head of an Iraqi air defence unit in the desert, outed himself. But he explained that the weapons he was talking about were battlefield weapons to be fired from rocket-propelled grenades, and were not for use in missiles.

"They arrived in boxes marked 'Made in Iraq' and looked like something you fired with a rocket-propelled grenade," Col al-Dabbagh told The Sunday Telegraph.

"They were either chemical or biological weapons; I don't know which, because only the Fedayeen and the Special Republican Guard were allowed to use them. All I know is we were told that when we used these weapons we had to wear gas masks."

When shown the information about the 45-minute claim in the Iraq WMD dossier issued by the Government in September 2002, he said: "I am the one responsible for providing this. Forget 45 minutes, we could have fired these within half an hour."

The 45-minute claim led to the death of scientist Dr David Kelly, after BBC journalist -Andrew Gilligan reported a source telling him the dossier was "sexed up" by Downing Street and that the 45-minute claim was included against MI6's wishes.

Geoff Hoon, the Secretary of State for Defence, told the Hutton inquiry into Dr Kelly's death on 22 September that he knew the claim in the dossier referred to battlefield weapons only.

Andrew Caldecott QC, for the BBC, then asked: "A number of newspapers had banner headlines suggesting this [the 45-minute claim] related to strategic missiles. Why was no corrective statement issued for the benefit of the public?" Mr Hoon replied: "I don't know."

Col al-Dabbagh, who was described as an advisor to the Iraqi Governing Council, said he was not prepared to release his first name for safety reasons. But he said he was willing to give evidence to the Hutton inquiry. British intelligence previously said it relied on a single senior officer from the Iraqi military for the WMD claim.

A Downing Street spokesman would not confirm or deny last night whether Col al-Dabbagh was the source of the 45-minute claim.

However, Col al-Dabbagh doubted Saddam developed missiles that could carry WMD and hit targets such as Israel or Britain's Cyprus military bases.

Col al-Dabbagh said he had no idea what became of the weapons he was describing. He believed the weapons would not be found until Saddam was caught or killed, as people would then feel freer to speak about them.

[gg188]

He allowed the impression to be given that Saddam's ability to launch chemical and biological weapons "which could be activated in 45 minutes" meant that British troops in Cyprus, or even civilians in Britain itself, could be targeted. This was not true, and many of those in the intelligence services knew it was not true.

Mohammed Atta and Osama Bin Laden delivered 80,000 pounds of flaming jet fuel into the twin towers of the World Trade Center. Quibbling over, or minimizing, the ragheads' capability to use the weapons they possess is rather silly.

[squidly]

For me it is, but if his unit had the stuff, where did it go?

[BlueNgold]

He must be lying. I mean, we can't trust an Iraqi Col.
Sen Kerry himself told us there were no WMD and that the President lied and that on top of that he f*&^%$ everything up.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Christmas may come early this year.

[Publius6961]

The weapons Col Dabbagh was referring to are Saddam Hussein's stocks of chemical and biological warheads.

Hmmmm.
The weapons every mental deficient in the U.S. claims never existed?

OK. That aside, the devastation to Iraq that would have resulted would have made Dresden, London or Tokyo look like a picnic.
I am still trying to understand this "we coulda really won if we wanted to" statement.
Typical Muslim bluster and delusion.

[Hot Tabasco]

Col Dabbagh told Mr Coughlin that the 45-minute claim was "100 per cent correct". He added that Saddam had hidden huge stocks of arms, including his chemical and biological munitions, at secret sites across Iraq.

OK General, where are they?

[Ragirl]

Ok, this all sounds very interesting, but where the HELL are these WMD's NOW? There are Fedayeen & former Bathist dudes running around Iraq attacking our troops, the UN, innocent Iraqi's, but they haven't used the WMD because they don't want civilians to die? I'm confused.

[Voice in your head]

"Isn't this enough evidence to prove Saddam had WMD?"

It would be, if the good Colonel would be so kind as to show us where the giant stockpiles of WMD are.

[MJY1288]

I do not believe Tony Blair will pay a huge price for anything, He stood tall when standing tall was a necessity. When the final story is told, once again, the left wing wussies who would rather get on their knees and bow at the feet of evil, rather than to confront it, will be sidelined by those who understand the real meaning of freedom and why it must be defended.

No one in this conflict will die in vein as long as we finish what we started, to cut and run like Bill Clinton did in Mogadishu would betray those who paid the ultimate price in removing Saddam and liberating 24 million Iraqi's

[SandRat]

Not to Peace TURDS. They not only have to have it found, in vast quantities, but verified by someone they trust; say like North Korea, or Cuba, or China.

Oh yeah, it would also help if a couple of the inspectors during scientific analysis died. Then they could blame us for not properly safeguarding it.

[PISANO]

Isn't this enough.........

The simple short answer is NO!!

However a longer version would be this: If you were a DEMOCRAT POTUS (Bill Clinton etc) the ANSWER would be a RESOUNDING & DEFINITIVE, PROOF BEYOND any DOUBT..... YES!!

If you are a Republican POTUS then the ONLY way to PROVE the existence of WMD is for MASSIVE US Casualties to result from a NBC attack!!

[Arpege92]

"Isn't this enough evidence to prove Saddam had WMD?"

Not for Democrats....it would have taken an attack on our soldiers using WMD's to force them to realize they were and are wrong.