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Fight for control of the Net erupts at U.N.
Reuters ^ | 5 Dec 2003 | Bernhard Warner

Posted on 12/06/2003 12:58:44 PM PST by demlosers

LONDON (Reuters) - A controversial plan to grant governments broad controls over the Internet has stolen the spotlight of a United Nations conference on IT next week, where China and Cuba will be among its strongest supporters.

Leaders from nearly 200 countries will convene in Geneva for the World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) on December 10-12, an inaugural conference with lofty goals to discuss bridging the digital divide and fostering press freedoms.

But a contentious political move to grant an international governing body such as the U.N.'s International Telecommunication Union (ITU) control over Internet governance issues -- from distributing Web site domains to the public to fighting spam -- has all but obscured the more virtuous aspects of the event.

Incubated in a geeky part of the U.S. Department of Defense decades ago, the Internet has become a thriving global marketplace since being fully turned over to the private business community in the early 1990s.

But many in the developing world believe a new approach is needed as the medium enters its teen years, one that will see poorer countries harness new technologies to improve their competitive stance.

ATTACKING STATUS QUO

The most recognisable Internet governance body is a California-based non-profit company, the International Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN). Under the new plan, it has the most to lose.

Incorporated in 1998, ICANN oversees management of the Internet's crucial addressing system which matches numerical addresses to familiar Web site addresses such as www.google.com.

While ICANN's oversight has been confined to the decidedly technical matters behind doling out domain names and establishing a domain name dispute resolution system, the group has been criticised roundly for adopting a pro-business approach that neglects the developing world.

The ITU, a 138-year-old trade body that among other things established country code rules for international telephone dialling, has been put forth by the developing world as the governing body that will best address its needs.

"What we are looking at is the future management of the Internet. It's not about who owns it or who will be regulating the laws, but what is best way to manage what has become a natural resource for all of humanity," a summit official said.

But U.N. officials have distanced themselves from some of the more radical suggestions put forth by member states who would like to see planet-spanning controls on content and taxes.

Still, proponents of the status quo are concerned that tinkering with the Internet now could stifle the medium's commercial potential.

"We do see a role for governments, as is recognised in ICANN's structure. However, we are concerned with any efforts to increase governmental involvement at the expense of private sector leadership," Theresa Swinehart, Counsel for International Legal Affairs for ICANN, told Reuters.

So far, a change in leadership has been bogged down by fractious discussion with a definitive resolution not expected until 2005 when the second WSIS summit is held in Tunisia.

But many believe the new guard has already arrived.

"We are seeing a clear shift from the mid-90s when governments were told to stay away," said Michael Geist, a law professor at University of Ottawa who specialises in Internet governance issues.

"Governments have shown they are very interested in getting involved on a domestic level and now they are looking at the international level."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Technical
KEYWORDS: internet; murderouscommies; turass; un
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To: Billthedrill
...what is best way to manage what has become a natural resource for all of humanity...

You didn't give Jimma Carter credit for that quote...

21 posted on 12/06/2003 2:59:51 PM PST by tubebender (We've been married 47 years and she still doesn't put the toilet seat up for me...)
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To: demlosers
All actions of this conference can be safely ignored. The UN has zero authority over the Internet and never will no matter how hard they try. If they attempt something, hackers will be able to route around it within days at the worst, and often within HOURS. As an example, there are already a number of "alternative" web domain services out there, and they've existed for years. Anyone can join in on them just by dropping a couple of extra IP addresses into your own PC's DNS server settings. (If you don't know what this means, trust me when I say that even the most inexperienced computer user can make the necessary change in about 90 seconds.) So even if the UN or some other freakish governmental organization were to find a way take over the big domains like .com, .net, etc, we could all bypass them with practically zero effort.

And no matter what other evil scheme they could dream up, we could find a way to bypass it, assuming they ever found a way to "obtain power" in the first place, which is pretty much impossible in itself.

The Internet is not a physical object; it is nothing more than an agglomeration of individual computers joined together BY CHOICE. And if I don't like what my ISP is doing, I can disconnect the cable modem right now, call you up on the phone and work out a way to connect our computers directly. Then we could add our friends to our little connection, and grow our own mini-internet from there, completely separate from the Big Evil UNternet.

Like everything else the UN does, it's all talk, no action. Let 'em whine.

22 posted on 12/06/2003 3:33:13 PM PST by Timesink (I'm not a big fan of electronic stuff, you know? Beeps ... beeps freak me out. They're bad.)
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To: aquawrench
Sure did the Defense
Advanced
Research
Projects
Agency
or DARPA for short
23 posted on 12/06/2003 3:54:08 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 "reach out and thump someone " & .50 cal Browning "reach out & CRUSH someone")
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To: demlosers
While ICANN's oversight has been confined to the decidedly technical matters... the group has been criticised roundly for adopting a pro-business approach that neglects the developing world.

Every country manages its own domain - developing or not. If there is neglect somewhere, it is internal to that country. Reuters is as obtuse as ever on the specific issues under dispute. I assume, someone is asking for subsidies and ability to block traffic. I would say - block this!
24 posted on 12/06/2003 4:01:53 PM PST by singsong (Demoralization kils first the civilization and THEN the people.)
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To: demlosers
Let's see any of those 3rd-world morons invent something besides new diseases,

F |_| C K the UN !

25 posted on 12/06/2003 4:16:32 PM PST by jonatron
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To: Billthedrill
Good post. "Natural" resource indeed.
26 posted on 12/06/2003 4:31:46 PM PST by beckett
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To: demlosers; hellinahandcart; countrydummy; NYC GOP Chick
FCUK China and Cuba!

Long live FReedom!

27 posted on 12/06/2003 4:50:43 PM PST by sauropod (I believe Tawana! Sharpton for Prez! Slap the Donkey or Spank the Monkey? Your Choice)
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To: sauropod
FCUK China and Cuba!

Yep, that's what I usually say every time I'm in the car and we see the UN from the FDR Drive. I'm all for just pushing the damn thing into the East River and waving "bye-bye" to it.

28 posted on 12/06/2003 5:03:32 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick (Clinton Legacy = 16-acre hole in the ground in lower Manhattan)
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To: Neanderthal
This is confusing, but as best I can remember, the single institution which was known at various times as ARPA and DARPA changes its name three times, from ARPA to DARPA back to ARPA and then back to DARPA again. Do a google search for ARPA/DARPA and I think you will find an explanation. As for arpanet/darpanet, what ever you recall was probably correct, at the time you used it.
29 posted on 12/06/2003 7:56:49 PM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Flash Bazbeaux; Neanderthal
It was ARPA from 1958 to 1972; DARPA from 72 to 93; ARPA again from 93 to 96; and has been DARPA since then.
30 posted on 12/06/2003 8:01:49 PM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Billthedrill
This is a perfect example of the socialist paradigm under which these people operate. The internet is nothing like a natural resource, that is, it doesn't simply exist, it was built, and there were costs and issues of ownership attendent to its construction.

That quote in the article about the Internet being a natural resource was what I wanted to post about. Then I read your response. You said it all for me. Agreed.

31 posted on 12/06/2003 8:46:26 PM PST by stripes1776
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To: fatrat
I thought Al Gore invented the internet!!!!!!!!
32 posted on 12/06/2003 9:38:32 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: demlosers
The UN wants to control your computer lead by China and Cuba.

Yep, the fine folks at the UN, that raided their own cafeteria like a bunch
of druken frat boys (apologies to any "Greeks" in the forum) at the first chance.

If they'll f--- up something as simple as a cafeteria, I shudder to think what these
well-dressed monsters would do to the net.
33 posted on 12/06/2003 9:45:34 PM PST by VOA
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Our congress crooks who vote for this will be out of their crooked jobs immediately.

No they won't.
It will be renamed The Worldwide Freedom of Information Protocol, be 120,000 pages long and nobody will read it, hence no slug that votes for it will be compromised.

34 posted on 12/07/2003 5:10:52 AM PST by Indie (We were warned. My people perish for lack of knowledge.)
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
where China and Cuba will be among its strongest supporters.

Why am I not surprised?

The only upside I can see to this is that the "next" meeting after this won't be until 2005.

Just damn.

If you want on the new list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

35 posted on 12/07/2003 5:13:50 AM PST by mhking
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To: Billthedrill
China et al are free to develop and deploy an independent internet infrastructure with its own protocols, hardware, software, etc. They could design it the way they like it, and control their own "natural resource" to their heart's content. Of course, the only ones using it instead of the real internet would be those who had no other choice.
36 posted on 12/07/2003 5:36:44 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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