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To: Loc123
The fact is--and nowhere is this seriously disputed--the universe did not generate itself.

Your statement is incorrect, there is plenty of dispute over the origin of the universe and one of the main positions is that the universe did, in fact, come into existence without a "creator"

56 posted on 12/05/2003 11:47:34 AM PST by WackyKat
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To: WackyKat
There are some self-sustaining (read: never provable or disprovable) NOTIONS and obscure mathematical POSSIBILITIES that there need not be a Creator. These are fringe and widely unsupported, however. This is especially the case for the multiverse fantasy.

Don't misinterpret what I'm saying. I never advocate becoming complacent with our knowledge on the universe's origins. It is just honest and accurate to state the universe was created.

Besides, my statement about the 1st law (Law of Conservation) stands for all evidenced phenomenae. hypothetical realms without any evidence what-so-ever can only bypass this with ignorance/avoidance.
117 posted on 12/05/2003 1:43:44 PM PST by Loc123
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