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To: WackyKat
How about the idea that once you die, you're just dead. You cease to exist. You don't "go" anywhere.

Fine. If that were true. I don't believe it is. Dr. Maurice Rawlings, a cardiologist, has written several books about this encounters with death-bed and near-death experiences. Here's a link to some Amazon reviews, pro and con. Now, I've never read Rawlings books so that's not the reason I believe in Hell. I have felt the presence of Jesus which led me to believe the Bible is a true testimony on these things and the Bible describes Hell and a judgement.

Do you remember what it was like before you were born?

I don't remember being an infant either but I certainly was one once. :-)

302 posted on 12/05/2003 10:31:11 PM PST by Tribune7 (It's not like he let his secretary drown in his car or something.)
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To: Tribune7; WackyKat
Near-death and death-bed experiences are not a reliable source for what happens after death, since the person giving the information is alive at the time. (Not that I'm pooh-pooing the idea, mind you, but we're in the atheistic world, where nothing but cold, hard verifiable fact will do...so they say.) Either they said something as they were dying, or they "died" a short time and then lived to tell about it, in which case they weren't really dead after all. Even those who are witnesses to death-bed anecdotes or phenomena can only rely on their personal observation, and their experiences can't be replicated in a controlled environment. Only the dead know for certain what happens after death.

So even the assumption that there is "nothing" after death is only a guess, not based on knowledge, fact or truth at all.

In other words, those who assert there is only oblivion after death are, well...operating on faith, not knowledge. It is a faith-based assertion.

309 posted on 12/06/2003 7:22:15 AM PST by wimpycat ("I'm mean, but I make up for it by bein' real healthy.")
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