To: Elliott Jackalope
So we are all no longer citizens of a country, we are just economic widgets to be bought and sold on the basis of our economic value?You don't get it. We are the country. The most popular shopping destination these days is Wal-Mart. They don't get those low prices by buying American made goods. There are plenty of American craftsmen who can produce the same goods, but very few are willing to spend the money.
And we're not going to get affordable word processing software if we have to pay American coders.
We ship out the low skilled work and keep the higher skilled jobs here. Coding has turned into a low skill job.
I'll probably have to duck some lobs from programmers, but that's true.
To: speekinout
So we are all no longer citizens of a country, we are just economic widgets to be bought and sold on the basis of our economic value? No problem. When the "leaders" of this former "country" want us "citizens" to go and fight and die in the next foreign war, I humbly suggest they go out and hire Ghurkas and Chicoms to do their dirty work. Since they have absolutely no loyalty to us "citizens", then we have no responsibility to them or this so-called "country". Deal?
The above statement is the reality that you still don't get.
Let me know when you have figured out who will be defending our nation. Unemployed and underemployed Americans whose representatives in Congress have sold them out in favor of corporate bribes are more apt to turn their guns on those who have betrayed them than die for a country with such corruption. The golden parachutes and obscene bonuses earned by execs who offshore entire departments and then share their profits with crooked congressmen to pass laws destroying America's technological lead in the world need to have the light of day shown on them.
The election is less than a year away.
To: speekinout
you are in a dreamworld. we aren't keeping the low skilled jobs here. in fact, its not a question of skills at all. its a question of where these jobs must have the workers physically located.
look at the last employment report. growth areas were retail, travel & leisure, government. all low skilled jobs. tech and manufacturing, which are high skilled jobs, are going offshore.
To: speekinout
You don't get it. Respectfully, sincerely, you don't get it
And we're not going to get affordable word processing software if we have to pay American coders. if they have to pay the inflated costs of living and working in the US due to the money supply being inflated for 20 years.
Even if every American worker agreed to work at merely the lowest costs of food, gas, clothing, healthcare, mortgage, they still couldn't touch the lower cost of living and working in India.
While it is true that a mud hut is a lot cheaper than a 1,000 sq ft 1940's bungalow, that bungalow built for 10K in the 40's now costs 200K. That is inflation. That is why an American coder is not 'affordable' relative to an Indian coder.
The inflation has been created, deliberately, moronically, by the US Federal Reserve for the last 20 years. Eliminating any chance to compete on price even when quality is not an issue.
Paul Volker dragged inflation of the 70's back down to near 0.
Alan Greenspan has reversed it.
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12/06/2003 8:04:24 PM PST by
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