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Zionist rapper wins fans and angers critics
Jerusalem Post ^
| Dec. 5, 2003
| ASSOCIATED PRESS
Posted on 12/05/2003 8:20:55 AM PST by yonif
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posted on
12/05/2003 9:04:27 AM PST
by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
To: Coroner
Why dont you have the group send a copy to every station in Dearborn MI?? That would be great!! I've been trying to play it here on my college station when I had a show last year. We got calls saying this stuff is great and they want to hear more of it. I have also tried to play it at college parties, but the DJ's most of the time seem reluctant to try it out.
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posted on
12/05/2003 9:06:32 AM PST
by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
To: uglybiker
I have that CD.
Oy, its so humid!
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posted on
12/05/2003 9:06:54 AM PST
by
diotima
To: Seeking the truth
Ping!
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posted on
12/05/2003 9:09:59 AM PST
by
diotima
To: BureaucratusMaximus
Do you listen to ANY music? I guarantee you that whatever listen to there's plenty of crap in there as well.
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posted on
12/05/2003 9:11:38 AM PST
by
cyborg
(mutt-american)
To: yonif
Oh dear... let the media start showcasing real talent in rap music. The FReepers who think rap is only a bunch of black thugs looking for street cred will not have anything to talk about. Interestingly enough, the only time I hear zionist rap groups is during the music portion of local christian radio.
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posted on
12/05/2003 9:15:55 AM PST
by
cyborg
(mutt-american)
To: cyborg
Interestingly enough, the only time I hear zionist rap groups is during the music portion of local christian radio. Really? What kind of groups do they play?
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posted on
12/05/2003 9:16:54 AM PST
by
yonif
("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
To: yonif
Next time I listen to the show, I will write it down. William Levi used to play a lot of it, mostly messianic Jew stuff, but even non-messianic stuff out of Israel. Even more curious are the Palestinian kids rebelling against their parents using rap. Suicide bombing looks passe when compared to Bentleys I suppose.
"Hip Hop Breaks Out in the Middle East"
The Baltimore Sun
www.sunspot.net/features/...ug10.story
Hip-hop breaks out in the Middle East
Rappers give edgy new voice to their pride and anguish
By Loolwa Khazzoom
TEL AVIV - "I want to tell people about the racism I experience," says Tarik Malko, 16, who aspires to be a rap star. "It's hard for me to talk about it, because people don't understand. But when I sing, I say what I love, what I hate. I even curse. I get everything out of myself, everything inside me. I love this music!"
Malko and her peers from Efsharut Aheret (A Different Option), an Ethiopian-Israeli youth group from Ashdod, Israel, were among the 700 concert-goers at the recent third annual Hip Hop in the Park in Tel Aviv, sponsored by Yaga Production House, a studio promoting up and coming Israeli hip-hop artists.
"Through hip-hop, we look at black people in America succeeding,"
Malko continues, "and we know that we can succeed, too." Ethiopian-Israeli rappers Bar and Jeremy assert that scores of community youth are drawn to hip-hop for this very reason.
Like their Ethiopian-Israeli peers, Arab-Israeli rappers such as MWR (Mahmoud, Waseem and Richard), Dam, and Tammer use hip-hop as a medium for discussing their struggles with discrimination and poverty,as well as the drug and crime problems arising from these struggles.
Arapiot (a hybrid Hebrew word for Arab female rappers), the only Arab female rappers in the world, additionally sing about their struggles as young women in the Arab community: "We have families that don't give us our freedom to determine our fate, to get an education, to go out with friends, to choose whom we will marry," says Arapiot's Safa. "In our songs we demand our freedom."
Shiri and Shorti, Israel's first female rappers - together a mix of Mizrahi (Middle Eastern/North African Jewish), Sephardi
(Spanish-Portuguese/Latin Jewish) and Ashkenazi (Central/Eastern European Jewish) backgrounds -focus mostly on gender issues.
"I give my point of view as a 20-year-old girl in Israel, with her own problems," says Shorti.
Most men in Israeli hip-hop, she says, focus on general issues, such as politics and economics. "I'm talking about subjects I haven't heard here yet. I'm taking it in your face, really personal, really out there." Shorti's first single is about her experience having sex with another girl - not yet a subject of mainstream Israeli music.
The messages of Israeli hip-hop are "very individual," explains Chemi, a member of the now-defunct band Shabak Sameh, which pioneered hip-hop in Israel 10 years ago. "Hip-hop is a tool. Everyone uses it to say what he or she wants."
Chemi's new group, Haloutsei Halal (Space Pioneers), frequently works with Arab-Israeli rap artists in concerts and on recordings, promoting messages of tolerance. As the words of a recent single in Hebrew and Arabic state:
"Look into my eyes. We both have the same blood. In the end, they will bury
us both the same way. Come, let's be neighbors and not enemies. Because there is nothing more important than life."
In addition to the messages of hip-hop being diverse, hip-hop cultural norms -such as clothing and body language - also vary from artist to artist.
"Look at me, I'm dressed in a dress," says rap and soul artist Me2qa, who performed at Hip Hop in the Park. "I'm not trying to look like 'Yo, yo, whassup?' I'm being myself."
Subliminal, Israel's leading hip-hop group, strictly adheres to the bandana, baseball cap, sports jersey, and baggy pants get-up associated with mainstream rap in America. But whereas the Subliminal artists may look as if they jumped straight off the set of MTV, their message is unique:
"Are you wearing a Star of David proudly on your chest?" Subliminal bellows into the mike at the opening of a concert, as thousands shoot their hands skyward, screaming enthusiastically.
"Once it was a shame to walk around with a Star of David," says MC Hatsel, who like the other artists in the group comes from an Iranian-Jewish family.
"Jews have been ashamed of our symbol because of what we learned from generations of oppression. We, however, are not ashamed. In our CD,everyone gets a Star of David as a gift."
Whatever their message and style, young Israeli women and men of all ethnicities are finding a venue for self-expression in hip-hop.
"It's how the new generation communicates," asserts MC Remedy, who flew from New York to Israel for a tour in the early summer months.
"I think Israelis like rap music because a mike is a very powerful tool to say things," adds Momi Levi, who produces some of Israel's biggest hip-hop artists. "And here in Israel, we have a lot of things to say."
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posted on
12/05/2003 9:23:45 AM PST
by
cyborg
(mutt-american)
To: yonif
Sounds like he's rappin' from Psalms (David's Prayer)
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posted on
12/05/2003 9:25:30 AM PST
by
richardtavor
(Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
To: yonif
"Eminem is not appropriating hip-hop and turning it back on black people," said Kitwana. Subliminal's music is "a kind of turning on the oppressed instead of being a tool of empowerment for those who are oppressed," he added. And all this time I though it was a tool for those who have no musical ability.
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posted on
12/05/2003 10:00:44 AM PST
by
CaptRon
To: diotima
Unfortunately my tae ogt "borrowed".
I miss the Moshe MC and Easy 'Oiving'. ;-)
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posted on
12/05/2003 10:11:07 AM PST
by
uglybiker
(REAL men like BUSH)
To: cyborg
I listened to Gil Scot Heron in college as a lefty. I liked Bob Dylan's rhyme work. I can handle well done Jamaican Dance Hall and I will listen to Kid Rock when he actually sings.
Rap...well ...the sound is in the ear of the beholder I reckon.
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posted on
12/05/2003 10:56:15 AM PST
by
wardaddy
("either the arabs are at your throat, or at your feet")
To: BrooklynGOP
Man. j00 vs pallies ain't got nothin on east vs west coast...
33
posted on
12/05/2003 11:01:10 AM PST
by
Texaggie79
(Did I just say that?)
To: Texaggie79
J00 siiiizzide.
34
posted on
12/05/2003 11:02:02 AM PST
by
BrooklynGOP
(www.logicandsanity.com)
To: Texaggie79; diotima
![](http://www.whoisalig.com/_images/_dapics/alig_dapics_2.jpg)
Big ups to me Holy Land crew.
To: wardaddy
What is your opinion of Kid Rock's newest cover? Rap is in the eye of the beholder. I like it but it's not my whole life, and my lifestyle doesn't revolve around it either. The problem occurs where gangsta rap music becomes some people's only means of existence. Pretty sad.
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posted on
12/05/2003 11:08:13 AM PST
by
cyborg
(mutt-american)
To: BrooklynGOP
What's a good hand sign for j00s?
37
posted on
12/05/2003 11:12:57 AM PST
by
Texaggie79
(Did I just say that?)
To: Cinnamon Girl
![](http://www.boyakasha.co.uk/alis4.jpg)
Diotima,
West Staines Massive
38
posted on
12/05/2003 11:22:10 AM PST
by
diotima
To: Texaggie79
Middle finger usually works.
39
posted on
12/05/2003 11:55:36 AM PST
by
BrooklynGOP
(www.logicandsanity.com)
To: cyborg
99% of rap music is garbage. Rap is angry, foul poetry with stolen bits of music as background noise. Oh yeah, don't forget to grab your Johnson while your conveying those important social messages to the kids.
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