Mom Sues School to Allow Nativity Scene

FOX NEWS ^ | December 05, 2003 | David Lee Miller

[NYer]

"I felt that it is only fair if they are going to display the menorah, which is a religious symbol, that they also display the Nativity scene instead of just snowmen and stockings and Christmas trees."

Jesus is the reason for the season.

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[Pedantic_Lady]

They should just take the menorah and crescent down. Schools are supposed to teach, not preach.

[highlander_UW]

The New York Civil Liberties Union agreed: "The Constitution prohibits government from promoting religion, any religion, and that means that public schools can be in the business of promoting religion," Donna Lieberman of the NYCLU said.

Really?! Must be that new readers digest version of the Constitution. The one I read says:

"CONGRESS shall make no law respecting an ESTABLISHMENT of religion, or PROHIBITING the free exercise thereof."

ACLU, liars or very dumb lawyers.

[Adder]

Well given the report that the schools in NY encouraged the use of menoras and the crescent and star, I hope this woman wins her case. There is definitely an animus to Christianity going on here.
While it is true that the schools should teach and not preach, this holiday is important to all segments of the community, as everyone recognizes some sort of spiritual ritual during winter, even pagans [Winter Solstice]. Since the schools are a part of the community and since the holidays are a part of the lives of the members of the community[children], it is only fitting that they be recognized EQUALLY.
Christmas is about the birth of Jesus, not a tree.
To be consistent in their imagery, they should use a dreidel instead of a menora.

[isrul]

"Schools are supposed to teach, not preach. "

They don't perform very well doing either.

[Lion Den Dan]

Go get em Mrs. Skoros.

[freeangel]

Let's take the other reliious symbole down and replace them with a dreidel and an assault rifle so that they may be proclaimed as "secular" images also.

[Pedantic_Lady]

They don't perform very well doing either.

I found the public school I attended to be extremely good.

[aardvark1]

I hope $he win$ punitive damage$ a$ well.

[Pedantic_Lady]

Christmas is about the birth of Jesus, not a tree.

To Christians, it's about the birth of Jesus. To people like me, who were raised as Christians but are agnostic/atheist, it's just another holiday that carries very little meaning. We celebrate it, but we celebrate it because we were raised to do so. For the increasingly larger portion of Americans who are Jewish/Muslim/other, it carries no meaning whatsoever except they get the 25th of December off work.

To be consistent in their imagery, they should use a dreidel instead of a menora.

They shouldn't have any religious symbols at all. It's a school, not some exhibit of religious multiculturalism.

[kitkat]

So what's the percentage of atheist/agnostic population in this country? And YOU'RE calling the shots for the vast remainder of the population?

[Pedantic_Lady]

And YOU'RE calling the shots for the vast remainder of the population?

Is that a question or a command?

Last I checked, the SCOTUS was calling the shots (interpreting the Constitution) and the POTUS was calling the shots (upholding the Constitution).

**end of civics lesson**

[SCDogPapa]

"CONGRESS shall make no law respecting an ESTABLISHMENT of religion, or PROHIBITING the free exercise thereof."

It always amazes me why that ONE sentence is so hard to understand. It's really not difficult.

[thiscouldbemoreconfusing]

You know, I read this stuff and for the life of me I can't figure why a Christian would live up north.

[DaughterofEve]

While we're on the subject of "holidays", schools would gain a minimum of a full week's worth of quality time every year if they stopped exalting and bending over backwards to make every October activity about Halloween, which of course is considered a religious holiday by some.

[matrix2225]

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[Pedantic_Lady]

While we're on the subject of "holidays", schools would gain a minimum of a full week's worth of quality time every year if they stopped exalting and bending over backwards to make every October activity about Halloween, which of course is considered a religious holiday by some.

Yeah; I'd like to see time at school devoted to learning. Halloween is a pretty stupid holiday.

[thiscouldbemoreconfusing]

After saying this: "You know, I read this stuff and for the life of me I can't figure why a Christian would live up north. " let me go a stip further and ponder a thought.

When I read the post from those up north, for the most part, and see the news that is generated from that part of the country, I can't help but wonder if they have even one solid Christ dedicated preacher in the entire north eastern quarter of the country.

[Maelstrom]

A self-contradictory statement.

Methings you sit under bridges collecting tolls from billygoats.

To teach, must include teaching religion.

To remove all signs of religion is a prohibition of religion.

To end all religious instruction is to make a religious judgement and enforce an establish with respect to religion: Atheism, or Human Secularism.