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To: Michael81Dus
So why do you oppose the value of human dignity?

Why do you tarnish your dignity by purposely misinterpreting what I write? You know that I objected to the idea of the state "balancing" individual rights with "the needs of society." You know that I was not disputing the value of dignity.

If you had any respect for your dignity, you would be arguing with me rationally, not by frivolously twisting my words.

71 posted on 12/09/2003 5:08:42 AM PST by Smile-n-Win (Let the Right do what's right, and the Left will be left behind.)
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To: Smile-n-Win
You personally attack me. It is not me getting personal here!

I try to understand your criticism. What´s wrong with balancing individual rights with the needs of the society? All free countries have to do so. If they don´t, they aren´t free, because they either put the needs of society higher than anything else (= tyranny, oppression of single persons, minorities) or they´d ignore the need of protection of individuals in conflicts of individuals (e.g. no police). We always balance rights vs. society.

The needs of society are the rights of the others combined. Noone can claim that his rights count more than the rights of all others. You just have to shut up in night on the publicn streets, you cannot shout out loud your opinion, although you´re generally free to express your opinion verbally. But the need of society in this case is to protect the rights of others (they have a right to sleep at night, at least to live in silence at night). However, another need of society is to safe the life of others and this would be rated higher than the right to have a silent night. So if the ambulance needs to switch on their loud "music player" to get the cars off their way, you have to stand this. I hope you now get that we all have to balance between the individual rights and the rights of others (needs of society) ALWAYS!

Sincerely,

Michael
73 posted on 12/09/2003 8:30:11 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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