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To: Prodigal Son
that the present day Germans have lost touch with reality.

Could you specify which Germans? Or do you mean all of them? Does this also mean all Americans are Republicans? I'm having trouble following this logic.

I mean the Germans who now claim to be morally superior to Americans because, as a knee jerk reaction to Nazi atrocities, they have now decided that any nation, such as the U.S., that has the death penalty must be the moral inferior of present day Germany.

I mean the Germans who clain that the American military detention center at Guantanamo is the moral equivalent to a Nazi era "concentration camp".

Two such Germans have posted on this very thread.

60 posted on 12/08/2003 9:35:43 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius
I mean the Germans who now claim to be morally superior to Americans because, as a knee jerk reaction to Nazi atrocities, they have now decided that any nation, such as the U.S., that has the death penalty must be the moral inferior of present day Germany.

LOL, the Brits are the same way. It's not just a German thing. There is no death penalty in the EU. Just ask Turkey.

I mean the Germans who clain that the American military detention center at Guantanamo is the moral equivalent to a Nazi era "concentration camp".

I have problems with Gitmo myself. In particular the thought that I, as an American citizen, could be sent there because the gov't deems me a terrorist. I think that eventually, the US will have to try these people. You can't just hold them forever without some sort of due process. We don't even know what they are in Gitmo for. We have only the explanation that they were picked up on the battlefield. I have no problem with their temporary detention, but eventually you have to resolve their situation.

61 posted on 12/08/2003 9:42:28 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Polybius; Smile-n-Win; Prodigal Son
I mean the Germans who now claim to be morally superior to Americans because, as a knee jerk reaction to Nazi atrocities, they have now decided that any nation, such as the U.S., that has the death penalty must be the moral inferior of present day Germany.

Huh? As far as I remember I never said that any other country should abolish the death penalty. I don´t interfere in the domestic issues of foreign countries, and the punishment of criminals is a domestic issue, as far as I´m concerned.

However, I realized that you have problems with our moral standard and our way to punish people. It wasn´t me complaining about the 15 years imprisonment expected for Mzoudi. When you´re now going to tell me that you didn´t want to interfere in my countrys domestic issues, what are we discussing right now?

64 posted on 12/08/2003 12:11:59 PM PST by Michael81Dus
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