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AZ Republic Nervous About Success of PAN
GOPUSA ^ | By Dennis Durband

Posted on 12/04/2003 11:06:04 AM PST by hsmomx3

An online poll by GOPUSA/Arizona drawing more than 700 responses showed 96-percent support for the Protect Arizona Now (PAN) Initiative. Border invasion polls regularly draw the highest rates of participation in GOPUSA/Arizona surveys.

A ProjectUSA poll was right behind with 95-percent support for PAN, as was the News/Insight Magazine poll.

The scientific ROPER Poll and a CNN poll both showed 85-percent support for the initiative aimed at enforcement of immigration laws.

KAET-TV pollster Bruce Merrill found widespread support for PAN extending beyond political allegiances. Seventy percent of those interviewed indicated either support or strong support for the initiative that would deny state and local social and welfare services to illegal aliens and require individuals to show proof of citizenship when they vote. Just 20 percent said they would strongly oppose (6%) or generally oppose (14%) the measure and 10% had no opinion. Merrill said, "Among those with an opinion, 78% said they would support the measure and 22% said they would oppose it. Rural voters (83%), self-identified conservatives (85%), independents (83%) and Republicans (82%) were most supportive of the measure."

State Rep. Russell Pearce, one of the leaders of the PAN initiative said he has never found anyone unwilling to sign their name on a petition sheet.

Now let's transport ourselves to the land of make believe in downtown Phoenix, the office of the Arizona Republic. It's no secret that the newspaper's editorial position is to support the border invasion and to oppose PAN. Liberal columnist Richard Ruelas took the latest potshot with a Thanksgiving Day hit piece: "Protect Arizona Now needs immigrants' support."

According to Ruelas, the initiative cannot succeed without more Hispanic support, despite the overwhelming public approval it has gained.

Invoking the race card, Ruelas wrote, "The folks behind Protect Arizona Now say that the measure is not anti-immigrant or anti-Hispanic. They also say many Hispanic citizens support the effort to prevent people here illegally from receiving state services and voting. Those Hispanics must be busy whenever the PAN folks hold a press event. Last week, the main backers of the initiative stood outside the state Capitol and announced support of more legislators. The diversity of this new group was encompassed entirely by Rep. Sylvia Laughter, an independent from Kayenta who represents northern Arizona, including the Navajo Nation. The other two-dozen legislators were all White. Each one Whiter than the next. And, although I'm sure some of their best friends are Hispanic, the list of names doesn't do anything to dispel the notion that this proposed ballot initiative is simply White people angry at all the Mexicans here illegally."

Ruelas then goes on to say correctly that PAN is not anti-immigrant, and he claims that if passed, it would help illegals already in Arizona. Ruelas ends his column by asserting that illegals are hard workers who don't require many breaks. I would love to see him try that line on the witness stand in front of Perry Mason. "Objection, your honor. Irrelevant." To which the judge wholeheartedly agrees with Mr. Mason: "Objection sustained. Stick to the subject, Mr. Ruelas."

Citing the KAET poll, Ruelas circles around for another ammo-lacking attack: "if the initiative is going to pass, it will need broader support." Broader than 70-96 percent? Like a grain of sand on a beach defying the relentless pounding of ocean waves, Ruelas insists, "The PAN folks need to find help from the immigrant community, the people who will benefit the most from this initiative. They won't be able to collect signatures -- unless backers find some of the thousands they believe are illegally registered to vote."

Ruelas disagrees with Elvia Díaz, the Arizona Republic reporter who covered the Nov. 20 PAN press conference in Phoenix. Diaz wrote in her lead paragraph that PAN is anti-immigration: "Twenty-three state lawmakers on Thursday lined up behind a ballot measure that would cut social assistance to undocumented immigrants and set stricter rules to prevent voter fraud."

Diaz also writes that PAN "has sparked strong reaction." Begrudgingly, she reveals near the end of her short story that the strong reaction is against the pandemic breaking of the border laws.

No doubt about it, the Arizona Republic is getting very nervous about the overwhelming support for PAN.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: az; azrepublic; immigration

1 posted on 12/04/2003 11:06:08 AM PST by hsmomx3
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To: HiJinx; Spiff
PING!
2 posted on 12/04/2003 11:18:19 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
Almost a year ago a national poll showed 73% percent in favor of enforcing immigration laws and borders. We are now in Iraq establishing democracy, where is our democracy?
3 posted on 12/04/2003 11:33:35 AM PST by meenie
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To: hsmomx3
I agree with what the initiative would do, but I do not sign petitions for initiatives. I refuse to participate in anything the local chairman of their committee is involved in, he is a lunatic.
4 posted on 12/04/2003 11:44:59 AM PST by c-b 1
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To: c-b 1
You must live in my district....
5 posted on 12/04/2003 11:49:20 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: c-b 1; Cyber Liberty; Spiff
Well, Spiff is our chairman, and our committee is also trying to get signatures for the PAN petition.

If the mental state of your committee chairman is your only objection, we'd be more than happy to have you sign one of our PAN petitions!!!
6 posted on 12/04/2003 1:26:58 PM PST by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's Grace. Come home when the job's done. We'll be here.)
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To: HiJinx; c-b 1
Actually, I'm not the chairman for PAN in this area. JackelopeBreeder may be, but I'm not sure. I know that he was asked to do it. I do know that the South East Arizona Coordinator for the PAN Initiative is also my club's secretary - Iris Lynch.

I know of whom c-b 1 speaks. He's talking about Joe Sweeney - a total nutball. Joe has run for Congress against Kolbe every 2 years for the last decade or so. He's a lunatic, truly nuts. I met with him once to see if I could help his campaign against RINO Kolbe and it only took me a couple of minutes to realize that the guy is a kook and wouldn't be winning anything in any race. Since the districts were redrawn he's over in the district that covers Yuma.

I've warned PAN about any association with the idiot, but I was told that he's really good at getting signatures at the gun shows. I said that if it were me, I wouldn't let the guy anywhere near my organization.

7 posted on 12/04/2003 1:40:36 PM PST by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: Spiff
No I am not speaking of Joe Sweeney, I am speaking of Jack Kretzer. I know Sweeney, he is mild compared to Kretzer.
8 posted on 12/04/2003 8:09:37 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: c-b 1
Oh! I was thinking of John Rutledge. I guess the insanity is more widespread than I had feared.
9 posted on 12/05/2003 11:47:54 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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