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To: myself6; Monitor
Not that I disagree with Lott, or his book, but liberals have convinced themselves that Lott's work has been "debunked."

I've heard the same thing and there is at least one individual who is trying to discredit Lott personally and professionally. I haven't read any of Kleck's work but have heard him referenced many times in the CCW debate. A book I found extremely helpful is a collection of personal accounts by individuals who successfully defended themselves with CCW:

The best defense : true stories of intended victims who defended themselves with a firearm. Waters, Robert A.

212 p. ISBN : 1888952970 (pbk.)$14.95 Nashville, Tenn. : Cumberland House, c1998.

Subject Heading(s) : Firearms--United States--Use in crime prevention--Case studies. Self-defense--Case studies.

I will make one caveat about the book--it contains some very graphic material. It is not presented sensationally, its intent is to impress on readers' minds the extreme danger the victims faced. This book is an excellent source of case studies because Waters collected accounts from the broadest cross-section of individuals possible. One of the men interviewed, a Vet from Houston, was an integral part of getting CCW legislation passed in Texas. If you do want to use the book and can't get access to it, let me know and I'll do what I can to electronically transfer the information to you.

I will keep looking for websites. Having only .edu, .gov and .mil sites to choose from is making this quite a challenge. One I'm sure that wasn't lost on your son's teacher.

36 posted on 12/04/2003 11:30:14 AM PST by Donaeus (HYDRA-SHOK, it does the body good. . .Just ask a Neanderthal.)
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38 posted on 12/04/2003 11:35:02 AM PST by chuknospam
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To: myself6
In case I don't have a chance to look them up, check out Vermont and Alaska government webpages. These states are very protective of 2nd Amendment rights as shall-issue states. There is also a small town in Kansas that has recently passed a city ordinance requiring every household in their jurisdiction to maintain a firearm and ammunition at all times or they would be fined. Check www.lauraingraham.com, she interviewed one of their deputies last week.

Good luck with this project and remember FReepers are only a post away.

40 posted on 12/04/2003 11:57:48 AM PST by Donaeus (HYDRA-SHOK, it does the body good. . .Just ask a Neanderthal.)
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Thanks for the info. I will take a look at this book.

Yeah, I normally wouldnt ask for help in searching the web for info, but like you said, the teacher / school intentionally made it a pain in the rear to defend any position contrary to their own.


I did come accross a good link to a pdf though.

"Multiple Victim public shootings, bombings, and right-to-carry concealed handgun laws: contrasting private and public law enforcement" - John R. lott and William M. Landes

http://papers.ssrn.com/paper.taf?abstract_id=161637


Thanks again to ALL freepers who helped out with this. I am going to order that JPFO video tonight I might even drive up to Holy Hill to get it. Kinda cool that they are in Wisconsin, only about an hour away from me.




43 posted on 12/04/2003 12:36:32 PM PST by myself6 (Unionize IT?! "I will stop the motor of the world" - John Galt)
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To: Donaeus
Forgot to mention about that PDF... if you look at the front cover it also states it is available off a .edu site.


http://www.law.uchicago.edu/publications/working/index.html
44 posted on 12/04/2003 12:39:50 PM PST by myself6 (Unionize IT?! "I will stop the motor of the world" - John Galt)
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