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To: Tymesup
Why would they have done a sloppy job? If Mrs. Clinton found the body, she would have called the A team. If a hypothetical cleaning lady found the body, she would have called Mrs. Clinton, who calls the A team. Who else gets into the getaway spot?

Craig Livingstone gets in, I guess, no?

My thinking is it was either a suicide in the WH that was 'moved to a better location' or a hit by 'B' or 'C' level operatives (think: former bar bouncer?).

It is the Clinton M.O. to make the worst possible choice, then fight your way out of it.

It's possible that someone found Foster and began acting on their own (suicide), or that it was murder carried out by 'C' level operatives who then had to be cleaned up after when the pieces no longer fit the story

Suppose he was getting ready to crack. Either Mr. or Mrs. Clinton would have motive to have him whacked. Arkancides seem to come in different flavors and abilities. Taking down Ron Brown's plane (and finishing him off later) would have taken a lot of ability.

Right. I would think that a connection to someone like, oh, say Riady, would be able to scrounge up helpers for this type of thing. I would think the hardest part of this op. would be making the decision to have it done.

Washington's not much different from Little Rock in that regard, I would imagine. WIth the Clinton ability to attract scumbags, certainly someone could come up with a dirty ex-military mercenary to arrange Ron's accident.

Disappointing comment from Scalia. Agreed it doesn't look promising that the pictures will turn up. I wonder what they would be worth on the open market.

In Scalia's defense, it's usually the liberal media trying to knock down a Republican that's championing a cause like this. Scalia is covering his bases for the larger questions in a case like this. I think the 'closed door' discussion at SCOTUS will (obviously) not be the merits of Foster in particular but of the broadest interpetation of 'right to know' what's happened in the death of a 'public figure'. We have to understand, as always, that this may come back to haunt us, but what other choice do we have? Who among us accepts the 'explanation' of JFKs demise? For this reason, I'm mildly optimistic. And I temper that optimism with a sense of sorrow for Foster's family, that this ever came to pass.

I wonder if the damn pictures even exist any more, that is to say, the 'real' pictures.

137 posted on 12/06/2003 6:02:26 AM PST by IncPen ( The liberal's reward is self-disgust.)
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To: IncPen
I'm skeptical of the hideaway/Livingstone theory. Foster leaves work, saying I'm going for lunch, back soon, knowing he's got dinner plans with the wife. He brought the gun to work with him that morning and nobody thinks he's on edge that day. Livingstone happens to go the hideaway on the exact day and almost hour Foster pulls the trigger. (Or Foster calls Livingstone to arrange a cleanup).

Livingstone thinks he could be blamed for the death and panics. Or Livingstone decides a cleanup is needed and that he and/or Kennedy can do the job. Somebody thinks the oven mitt is a good idea.

Do we know if anyone ever identified the oven mitt as Foster's? It seems unlikely that someone decided, as the cleanup is in progress, that they would go to Foster's house, excuse themselves from any family members present, and borrow an oven mitt.

If the mitt was gone earlier in the day, then either Foster cluttered up his briefcase or walked out of the house with the gun inside in the mitt in his hand or somebody else planned the whole thing.

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The prudent thing would have been to destroy the pictures once, rather than take the chance that they spontaneously disappear into the wrong hands at any point in time. The risk is that you need to produce the pictures in the future. Given the acquiescent nature of the press, it's not a big risk.

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I don't think we will get the goods on this crime family. I think it's more likely somebody else will think they're not getting their fair share, say Howard Dean, for instance. Or Tom Daschle. Or Charles Schumer. Or a Chinese general. Dick Gephardt. Ralph Nader. Ted Kennedy.

Mrs. Clinton says to Wesley Clark, why don't I run as your veep, thinking I can always arrange an Arkancide if I don't like the way things are running. Clark accepts her wonderful idea, thinking I'll be President, I can Arkancide her first, her Secret Service agents will hesitate just a little bit before protecting her.

Or Mrs. Clinton decides the best way to boost her popularity is to be the grieving widow.

Or Mrs. Clinton decides the best way to boost her election chances is to take a crack at Mr. Bush. Whether she succeeds or not, Mr. Bush's team decides enough is enough and the orders are given.

If the Clintons were to slash their wrists or hang themselves or blow their brains out or fly into the side of a mountain or all of the above, who would question the tragedy of the suicide?
138 posted on 12/06/2003 8:18:11 AM PST by Tymesup
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