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To: kattracks
There are lots of folks, including Conservatives that have begun to view Ann as some sort of wild-eyed, unbalanced radical because....

...she's willing to speak the truth.

What separates America from Afghanistan, from Iraq, from Iran, or even Great Britain? If I curse the Queen in Britain, I could literally be arrested. If I curse the Mullah in Iran, I could be stoned. How are we different, and why?

Ann has hit the target squarely. It's not just the "rule of law", but the CONSTITUTIONAL rule of law. We have a law so basic that all citizens have ostensibly endorsed, one only endorsed by men but granted by God alone, one that no politician or judge should violate without forfeiting their legitimacy to govern or rule altogether. It's in black and white. It is simple to understand.

And, tragically, it has been ignored by Congressmen, Senators, Presidents, and most criminally of all, the watch dogs whose primary mandate is to watch over it, the Federal Judiciary.

If they have so forfeited their legitimacy by passing laws, issuing Executive orders, or issuing rules which are clearly unconstitutional on their face, by what right to they continue to "serve" and rule over the American people?

It is by rule of force and might, and nothing else.

So, if someone is so bold as to say that it is understandable how citizens might resort to violence, since their Constitutionally guaranteed rights have been violated with impunity, they'll join Ann in reputation, and quite probably be tossed off FR by JimRob for fear of government prosecution or civil persecution. The only argument against violence is that we still through a Constitutionally protected ballot, a method to achieve democratic, peaceful change.

Unless, of course there is a hanging chad, or the dead rise to vote, or legal technicalities keep your candidate off the ballot, or a Judge rules against you, or someone arrests you under color of authority for exercising your voice in front of the wrong building, operated by the wrong, politically protected organization.

What then?

SFS

7 posted on 12/04/2003 2:00:17 AM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone (SFS)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
So, if someone is so bold as to say that it is understandable how citizens might resort to violence, since their Constitutionally guaranteed rights have been violated with impunity, they'll join Ann in reputation, and quite probably be tossed off FR by JimRob for fear of government prosecution or civil persecution. The only argument against violence is that we still through a Constitutionally protected ballot, a method to achieve democratic, peaceful change. Unless, of course there is a hanging chad, or the dead rise to vote, or legal technicalities keep your candidate off the ballot, or a Judge rules against you, or someone arrests you under color of authority for exercising your voice in front of the wrong building, operated by the wrong, politically protected organization. What then?

If I shall be kicked off for advocating that of which you speak, then so be it. If I shall be killed for advocating that of which you speak, so be it. For I will then be in the glorious company of heroes and patriots.

Ahh but then when one does a patriot, many flamers follow with the lambs call of he took the law into his own hands. He got what he deserved.
Just as did Adams, Franklin, Henry, Hamilton and Jefferson?
We repeat the founders words about the tree of liberty requiring blood, but then shirk from the responsibility many lifted up before us. IS this still the land of the free and home of the brave?

9 posted on 12/04/2003 2:17:58 AM PST by Indie (Orwell was only a couple dozen years ahead of his time.)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
Well said.

Bump to find this later.
19 posted on 12/04/2003 3:48:29 AM PST by Big Giant Head ( </ duh? >)
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
Very well stated.
28 posted on 12/04/2003 1:04:12 PM PST by arasina (I can't believe I said that.)
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