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To: js1138; Phaedrus; betty boop
I’m very impressed, js1138! You are really on a roll today.

More to the point, if something from outside our known dimensions is impinging on our existence or our perception, any demonstration of this phenomenon will automatically be added to the box called physically reality. Anything you might wish to classify as supernatural or spiritual automatically qualifies as physical if it can interact with the known physical world. The defining quality of physicality is not the nature of its form or structure, but whether it can be studied.

This is very true. But whereas we can and do study God through His revelations and by inference, we will obviously never be able to understand Him fully unless He were to fully reveal Himself to us and grant us the capacity to take it all in. IMHO, that is not likely...

So if the Jewish Kabbalists are right and the speed of light is the boundary (firmament) between the physical and the spiritual then it would stand to reason that any scientific research into superluminal phenomenon would be expanding the meaning of “physicality” to include part of the spiritual realm.

Likewise, if the boundary (firmament) is dimensionality per se then inter-dimensional laboratory tests that might be performed on gravity (or perhaps virtual particles) would broach the spiritual realm and expand the meaning of “physicality.”

Even more interesting, from your observation, all the research that we perform on physical realm manifestations of spiritual events (which to us believers is everything) – is research into the spiritual and again “physicality” includes some of the spiritual.

All very fascinating, js1138. Thank you!

Perhaps now I ought to change my definition of the metaphysical naturalists’ worldview to be that his anchor is his own apparant self-awareness, he sees “all that there is” as that which can be observed or inferred by what he believes to be physical sensory perception, reasoning or experimentation?

830 posted on 12/10/2003 12:14:34 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
that which can be observed or inferred ...

Most of what we observe is actually inferred. This is true of science, religion and everyday experience. And inference is extremely susceptable to error, which is why science demands multiple avenues of evidence, and wherever possible, repeatablity.

833 posted on 12/10/2003 12:21:12 PM PST by js1138
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