[Alamo-Girl]

Phaedrus: He then proceeds to select from a shelf, placed off to one side, one of a range of human emotions, "anxiety" for example, to justify his points. Well, there can be no anxiety since that is brain function, too.

RWP: Animals clearly show anxiety; even some comparatively simple animals. When you swat a housefly and miss, for a while afterwards the housefly is reluctant to land, and when it does, stays still for a much briefer interval. Does a house-fly have free will?

I think you just made Phaedrus' point.

[Right Wing Professor]

I think you just made Phaedrus' point.

I don't see how.

The possibilities are these:

1. Emotion is not compatible with determinism. Animal 'emotions' bear no relationship to human emotions. Animals are deterministic, humans are not
2. Emotion is not compatible with determinism. Animal 'emotions' are at least partly equivalent to human emotions; neither animals nor humans are deterministic.
3. Emotion is compatible with determinism. Animal 'emotions' are at least partly equivalent to human emotions; the existence of emotions does not bear on the question of whether animals and humans are deterministic.

I choose 3.