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To: Tares
Without some empirical evidence that empirical evidence is the best standard for judging facts, the scientific standard rests on belief and nothing more. At least belief in scripture is internally self consistent.

Empirical proof of the essential identity of Creationism and PostModern-Deconstructionism. Both deny the validity of scientific inquiry and use beliefs as the standard of objectivity.

Belief in which scripture is internally self-consistent? How does one choose which scripture to believe? (Consulting a haruspex would internally consistent by this definition of consistent.

To see the usefulness of empirical evidence, one should study the consequences of the contrapositive.

188 posted on 12/04/2003 8:50:22 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Empirical proof of the essential identity of Creationism and PostModern-Deconstructionism. Both deny the validity of scientific inquiry and use beliefs as the standard of objectivity.

And how is belief in objectivity any more objective? Can you demonstrate that objectivity is "objective" without resorting to belief?

Belief in which scripture is internally self-consistent?

The Old and New Testaments.

How does one choose which scripture to believe?

Innate knowledge, testimony of the Holy Spirit, track record.

(Consulting a haruspex would internally consistent by this definition of consistent.

Only haruspexs who made no mistakes in their predictions are candidates for internal consistentency.

To see the usefulness of empirical evidence, one should study the consequences of the contrapositive.

It's not a question of the usefulness of empirical evidence. The question is whether or not it is possible to demonstrate the "objectivity" of a reliance on empirical evidence in the search for knowledge (truth, facts, etc.), and only empirical evidence, without resorting to a belief, the truth of which has no empirical evidence to support it.

198 posted on 12/04/2003 9:24:49 AM PST by Tares
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