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Mexican Troops Kidnap Texas Family?
newsmax.com ^ | Thursday, Dec. 4, 2003 | Jon E. Dougherty

Posted on 12/03/2003 4:41:07 PM PST by VU4G10

As many as eight armed Mexican soldiers crossed the border near a tiny Texas hamlet and kidnapped an American family of five last week, and are still holding one of them, sources tell NewsMax. According to a law enforcement source who spoke on condition of anonymity, the incident was reported to local authorities by family members upon their release the following day. From there, local officials reportedly contacted the FBI; federal officials are said to be looking into the incident.

The source said the Mexican unit may have been prompted to cross into the U.S. because the family – a father, mother and three minors – were shooting rabbits on their property near Candelaria, Texas, which is located along the border in Presidio County, about 170 miles south-southeast of El Paso.

A law enforcement bulletin describing the incident said the "family of five kidnapped … by Mexican officials at gunpoint" occurred around 5 p.m. local time Nov. 24. U.S. border authorities were notified the next day.

The family was "taken by gunpoint by Mexican officials to Mexico," the bulletin said. "As of Nov. 25 … four of the family members – one female and three minors – were released, while (the father) Escarcega, Ladislado remains in custody."

Presidio County, Texas authorities confirmed to NewsMax the incident had been reported to the sheriff's department, but a spokesman there said the FBI had taken over the investigation and referred questions surrounding the report to them.

An FBI spokeswoman in Washington, D.C., referred NewsMax to the bureau's El Paso, Texas office, but no one there returned calls seeking comment.

Nevertheless, the bulletin provided more specifics.

Shooting at Rabbits

"It's believed that the family members were shooting at rabbits along the [Rio Grande] river at the time of their kidnapping," the bulletin said. "Local law enforcement was contacted after the release of family members."

In the meantime, said the bulletin, "sector intelligence is continuing to gather information on the occurrence where … follow-up information is needed."

Law enforcement sources said the family was not shooting into Mexico or otherwise threatening Mexican military or civilian personnel.

The latest incursion into the U.S. by armed Mexican troops follows a series of similar incidents directed against U.S. civilians and law enforcement authorities. The most high-profile kidnapping occurred in August 1985, when an eight-man squad of Mexican troops crossed the border onto private property in San Diego County.

The troops came looking specifically for Robert Maupin, the land owner, after he reported the presence of a met amphetamine lab to the Drug Enforcement Agency, which in turn reported it to Mexican authorities. The lab, Maupin told officials, was visible from his land inside the U.S.

More recently, in May 2002, three armed Mexican troops in a military Humvee on the U.S. side of the border near Ajo, Ariz., fired on a Border Patrol agent in his vehicle. As the agent drove away from the scene, a bullet shattered the back glass of his Chevy Tahoe patrol vehicle, which as clearly labeled with U.S. Border Patrol markings.

House Immigration Reform Caucus chairman Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., told the Washington Times in a year ago his office had documented 118 instances where Mexican military or law enforcement had been seen on U.S. soil. In 60 percent of those cases, he said, the Mexicans were armed.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; invasion; mexico; nationalsecurity; texas; wod
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To: VU4G10
WHAT???

Do I Hear This Correctly??

are MEXICANS CRossing our Borders to Apprehend American Citizens???

OH--I HOPE NOT!!

There is NO "Provision" for Armed Foreign Agents to apprehend an American Citizen on American Soil.

If such an Unconstitutional event has happened, we have "Grounds for" WAR!

Absent a Signed--Well-Publicized--Treaty, the MOST "Mexican Authorities" can do with an "American Citizen Evildoer" is remand Said "Citizen" to American Law-Enforcement Custody!

Doc

101 posted on 12/03/2003 8:16:30 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: Doc On The Bay
A number of us have decided to wait for confirmation before going completely F'ng postal on Mexico.

You may as well wait with us.

102 posted on 12/03/2003 8:19:42 PM PST by txhurl
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To: longtermmemmory
News like this will never be breaking news as Bush might have to do something about it.

I don't doubt that it is true.
103 posted on 12/03/2003 8:22:28 PM PST by texastoo (What a Continent!!!)
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To: JustPiper
Piper, Regarding your article.

As Paul Harvey says, the rest of the story. Did you notice in the second case that the feds. watched this for a year? It makes you wonder how many illegals entered under the watchful eyes of the feds.
104 posted on 12/03/2003 8:26:50 PM PST by texastoo (What a Continent!!!)
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To: Gritty
That is BS!

The mexicans ARE the drug smuggelers!!!

105 posted on 12/03/2003 8:29:36 PM PST by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
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To: JustPiper
I'm more concerned of the validity of this story. Is it something we should get up in arms about or is it a misrepresentation of facts? We just don't know all the details to make an informed decision.
106 posted on 12/03/2003 8:35:24 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: JustPiper
I don't know...

I do know there have been military incursions. That there has been no news coverage bothers me.

It just doesn't make any sense for it to have been hushed up.
107 posted on 12/03/2003 8:38:28 PM PST by HiJinx (Go with Courage, go with Honor, go in God's Grace. Come home when the job's done. We'll be here.)
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To: txflake
& So I Will--BUT, if the "Jerkweeds" running that "Backwater Quasi-Nation" have decided to become "Third-World Predators",--The Gloves Are OFF!!

FAR TOO MANY AMERICANS have been Victimized by the Corrupt Denizens of our "Neighbor, Mexico!"

IF the CORRUPT FOOLS who control Mexico have decided to invade & Prey upon American Citizens, They CANNOT EXPECT ANY "Protection" from American Retaliation!

Mexico Exists because America has Tolerated a Benign, utterly Corrupt, Neighbor.

IF some FOOLS attempt to extort American Citizens, the "Benign" Status ENDS!

America would ALWAYS support an "Egalitarian, Democratic Mexico!"

The Mexican People MUST establish Their Nation-a Nation which America would Support & Encourage.

Until Then, America will ALWAYS SUPPORT an Independant, Democratic Mexico!

Doc

108 posted on 12/03/2003 8:42:49 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: VU4G10; Poohbah
PING!
109 posted on 12/03/2003 8:50:16 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: VU4G10
Now for that, I'd support marching in through Vera Cruz past Sierra Gorda... and into the Halls of Montezuma.
110 posted on 12/03/2003 8:51:58 PM PST by Porterville (No communist or french)
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111 posted on 12/03/2003 8:54:27 PM PST by Porterville (No communist or french)
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To: VU4G10
Sounds to me the new sport in that `ar nect of the woods should be shooting mexican longleg hairless rabbits.

Why hec, if the land there is THAT cheap, I outght to get a couple a hunderd akers to go along with that Hill country deer lease.

Something tell me the neighbors to the east and west won't mind . . .


TLI

112 posted on 12/03/2003 9:05:29 PM PST by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: fr_freak
The first sentence is correct. The individual is simply telling the truth. Mexico is ruled by about 32 families. It IS an oligarchy. That is a FACT. What part of the truth don't you understand?
113 posted on 12/03/2003 9:12:03 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: fr_freak
...millions of Catholics in the US are prevented from instituting a corrupt society in the US only by the righteous strength of Protestants, Episcopelians among them, and Atheists?

Unfortunately, no.

114 posted on 12/03/2003 9:13:16 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: VU4G10
What a bunch of extremist, knee-jerk, mongerbaters this thread attracted.

Dummies.

115 posted on 12/03/2003 9:39:45 PM PST by PRND21
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To: No Blue States; Dog Gone; TexasCowboy
I priced some land south of Dryden at $65/acre with a view of the Rio Grande and Mexico.

A friend of mine has a deer camp near Rock Springs, he recently put a fence with razorwire atop to stop cabin break-ins.
116 posted on 12/03/2003 10:28:57 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: PRND21
...."What a bunch of extremist, knee-jerk, mongerbaters this thread attracted.".....

Yeah, we all know the redneck Texicans deserved it,......they were shooting GUNS! The peacefull Mexicans had to stop the madness.

117 posted on 12/03/2003 10:41:38 PM PST by chuckles
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
The first sentence is correct. The individual is simply telling the truth. Mexico is ruled by about 32 families. It IS an oligarchy. That is a FACT. What part of the truth don't you understand?

Which part of "Why is this the fault of the Catholic Church?" don't you understand? Eh? And remember, I specifically requested a non-delusional answer.
118 posted on 12/03/2003 11:28:05 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: PRND21
What a bunch of extremist, knee-jerk, mongerbaters this thread attracted. Dummies.

Your use of the word "monger" is incorrect. Hang on a second while I reload. Here comes another Federale on Texas land.

119 posted on 12/04/2003 12:53:48 AM PST by Indie (Orwell was only a couple dozen years ahead of his time.)
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To: VU4G10

...But were not allowed to win and why.

Blackjack Pershing

George S. Patton,
VMI 1907 (1903-4)
"Patton's Battle" (click)

First American Mechanized Battle

120 posted on 12/04/2003 1:18:54 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Rumble Thee Forth...)
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