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Dude, you don't know me and you obviously don't know where I'm coming from. It would also appear that you didn't take much care in reading what I've already posted. In light of that, I won't rip you a new one for going off on me based on a bunch of assumptions about my position - even though you've tempted me. All I can say is that you might consider making a better effort at determining exactly what position somebody holds before you launch a volley of wild accusations and mis-characterizations. If, on the other hand, I'm wrong about you and your comments to me weren't simply an error in target identification, I don't get paid to teach at FR so I'm outta here.

SierraWasp seems to get it, maybe you should ask him about it.

Well, dude. Here in the Napa Valley, individuals, groups of individuals and partnerships of individuals are denied the use of their property 24/7/365 by lawyers that sound just like you. Are you a land use lawyer?

That cancer is all over N. California and Oregon.

If a corporation is trying get special breaks or get our tax dollars for special breaks, re land use plans, I'm right with you. I have worked/helped to defeat these corporate raiders, and on the same day worked to enable Home Depot to finally open a store here inspite of the Nattering Nannies.

In our area, it is the individual landowners whose rights get trampled daily in the name of something green or planned development.

Or a legitimate corporation like Home Depot, Walmart, Applebee's, Target, Trader Joe's is discriminated against by the facist boutique store owners who drive the city and county decisions to prevent a legitimate corporation from building a store to codes and then opening for legitimate business.

"I don't get paid to teach at FR so I'm outta here."

Well, you're the "agitator!" You agitated me a little, at first by making sweeping statements that Sowell had it all wrong from the get-go!!!

Those of us that have had to fight this crappola on an on-going basis, just trying to get reality back like it was when we first started to think as adolescents and learned to love our free market/free enterprise capitalistic system... We get a little annoyed with idealistic thinking being interjected as criticism, no matter how principled it may be!

I cringed just a little when Grampa Dave came on like I did at first, but hey, you may not get paid to teach FReepers, but you gotta expect reactions like this if you're gonna be livin up to your screen name as you have so far on this thread. If you hand it out... you gotta be able to handle it when it boomerangs!!!

I'm not sure about Grampa Dave, but I haven't learned everything there is to know about everything, even though I may act like it at times on here. So if you have something to teach us... don't feel overwhelmed by it and stick around and feel free to agitate us some more. But expect to learn some things you aren't aware of, as well!!!

Have a great day, agiteacher! (grin)