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To: colorado tanker
"Indeed, some isolationists sneered at "President Roosevelt's War." He must be rolling in his grave seeing that his party is now the home of the sneering isolationists and defeatists."

I have no doubt FDR is rolling in his grave, along with G. Washington, A. Lincoln and probably most of the rest of them. I venture LBJ & R. Nixon are not surprised at the way the American people (some of them) are acting.

But my question really is about WWII, I know Americans were unwilling to get into the war until after Pearl Harbor, but what about after that? Was there carping like there is now? Did Al Smith - or whoever it was run on a platform of "let's get out of Europe and the Pacific? I guess the commies didn't complain so much, since Uncle Joe was on our side.

Was there a vocal and annoying opposition, like now? Or is it that the left today doesn't get that we're in a fight for civilization? Or is it that they do get it, and they hope we're going to lose?


13 posted on 12/02/2003 5:07:04 PM PST by jocon307 (The Dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: jocon307
But my question really is about WWII, I know Americans were unwilling to get into the war until after Pearl Harbor, but what about after that? Was there carping like there is now? Did Al Smith - or whoever it was run on a platform of "let's get out of Europe and the Pacific? I guess the commies didn't complain so much, since Uncle Joe was on our side.

I'm not sure about Al Smith, but Charles Lindburgh, who was an ardent Isolationist before the war, became one of the top covert operations advisors to the OSS. In addition, Wendal Wilkie, who had run against FDR in 1940, went on a number of special diplomatic operations for Roosevelt, including helping convince Brazil to enter the war on our side. This was a key development in preventing Argentina from entering the war on the side of Germany. If Madame Reichsfuhrer Clinton had been around to pull this stunt during WW2, she probably would have suffered a "regretable" accident.

18 posted on 12/02/2003 5:45:22 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Eagle Scout class of 1992.)
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To: jocon307
As I understand it, the country was fairly well unanimous in the necessity of defeating Japan. The war in Europe was deja vu all over again, not much enthusiasm on that part of it, at least relatively.

If I remember my reading, it was Tom Dewey running against Roosevelt in '44, and he considered raising some questions about what US intelligence knew about Pearl Harbor prior to the attack. He was dissuaded privately from doing so in the interests of national unity in time of war.
19 posted on 12/02/2003 6:15:42 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: jocon307
No, after Pearl Harbor there wasn't much opposition to WWII, certainly nothing like what we're seeing today. There were some hard core isolationists and Nazi sympathizers who opposed the war, but there numbers were releatively small. There were also some Republican country club business types who looked down there noses at Roosevelt Democrats and thought the war was bad for business, but again fairly small numbers.

What we're seeing today is more of the legacy of the anti-Vietnam boomers.

30 posted on 12/03/2003 9:24:15 AM PST by colorado tanker ("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
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