Posted on 12/02/2003 1:41:51 PM PST by FairOpinion
The quickest way to shut up a liberal when they try this cr@p (i.e. say Bush hasn't found Bin Laden or Saddam) is to counter with "Our troops are working long and hard to find them and we support their efforts. That you feel the need to denigrate their work is appalling and telling". It shuts them up every time.
Unfortunately, that is true. But, if done in the public forums, it reinforces the seed in the public mind that the liberals can't be trusted to support our troops.
Kooky Clark has Dean beat. Clark is talking about time travel these days (check the FR threads if you didn't hear).
The libs who love to trash the President by trashing the military aren't so vocal on this.
Methinks Osama died in December 2001. Saddam is likely in hiding. The goal was to topple Saddam (he was even offered the ability to step down prior to Gulf War II). The goal was accomplished. The left is just doing their best to make the Iraq aftermath a failure so that they can cry crocodile tears.
Yep! Remember that? And what happened the next day? The biggest mass protest in England happened and Saddam told the UN to shove it. That`s what I love above these libs...They`re all quick to blame Bush for this war, but as I remember it was them who were emboldening Saddam each and every day with their "anti-liberation" marches. Let`s not forget that people with connections to Al Qaida and Saddam where trying to organize those protests. Why? Because they wanted the US to look like the bad guy, not the psycho tyrant in Iraq who crucifies 15 year olds for fun. That`s why I blame every drop of blood spilt over there now directly on the hands of every liberal mutt out there who was screaming appeasement before the invasion. The gun was pointed at Saddam, and these mutts told him to remain defiant. "We stand behind you Saddam!" That`s the first and only message that came out of each and every one of those protests. Martin Sheen, Susan Sarandon, in my mind are nothing more than a bunch of mutt scumbags who have killed our guys every bit as much as those terrorists , and though Hollywood and all the rest of them continue to live it up, one day they are going to find that big Karmic retribution in the sky is going to come crashing down upon them and when that happens that`s when I pop the champagne.
My wife was telling me this over nine months ago. She's a native Vermonter.
See also, THIS image from that same interview:
"Separated at Birth?"Caption Muh Photo - Howard Dean Stalked by a Bush-Cheney Fan.
Posted on 12/03/2003 11:55 AM PST by Happy2BMe
Mon Dec 1, 8:41 PM ET
Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean (news - web sites) laughs after seeing a student wearing a Bush-Cheney campaign T-shirt behind him during a taping of 'Hardball,' with host Chris Matthews, Monday, Dec. 1, 2003, at Harvard University's Institute of Politics in Cambridge, Mass. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola)-- snip --
To: Happy2BMe
George McGovern - 1972, Howard Dean - 2004. Same guy. Same results.
37 posted on 12/03/2003 12:34 PM PST by (Guns!)
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James Lileks:
Does Dean Really Want to Be President? One Wonders, When He Opens His Mouth
The Newhouse News Service ^ | December 3, 2003 | James Lileks
Posted on 12/03/2003 9:45 AM PST by quidnunc
The simplest questions often yield the most revealing answers. Let's pretend we've just asked the Democratic presidential contenders how they feel about apple pie:
John Kerry: Serving in Vietnam, I came to regard apple pie as a symbol of the America for which so many fine men died in a misguided war, and I am determined not to repeat that mistake. And I like it with ice cream.
Dick Gephardt: I will never forget seeing my dad at the kitchen table, shaking his head over the high price of apples, and that's why I'm running today: to give all Americans free and fair access not just to apples, but the whole pie. Government is the crust; people are the filling.
Dennis Kucinich: My dreams are filled with the screams of innocent apples, fed by the millions into industrial mincing machines.
Howard Dean: Well, you have to understand that George Bush not only doesn't get the complex history of splicing and cross-breeding that led to the modern apple, he's alienated the countries in the world whose apple stocks might replenish our own after the worst environmental policies since Catherine the Great threatened the domestic Macintosh-producing regions. You can't solve that by flying to Baghdad and serving pie which I understand was pecan, an ironic choice, since they've stopped serving pecans at VA hospitals because of Bush cutbacks.
Notice that the perfect hypothetical Dean comment demonstrates his broad, furious intellect and his contempt for Bush without really answering the question.
Why? Because it's beneath him! Ask him the boxers or briefs question, and you might just get a history of textile tariffs, delivered with testy impatience.
So it was an interesting moment on MSNBC's "Hardball" when Chris Matthews asked Gov. Dean whether Osama bin Laden should be tried in the United States or by the World Court.
For a presidential candidate, this is not a difficult question. It requires no long cogitation, no disquisitions about the role of international law from the Wilsonian perspective. It doesn't require any second-guessing.
You say that bin Laden attacked America, and he deserves to be tried there by Americans.That's what you say if you want to be president of the United States, anyway.
Said Howard Dean, in his standard tone of dismissive impatience: "I don't think it makes a lot of difference." Matthews repeated the question. And Dean said it again: "The truth is, it doesn't make a lot of difference."
Try bin Laden in an American court, before an American jury, or try him in The Hague: no difference, monsieur...
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...does not allow for the CAPITAL PUNISHMENT of convicted mass murderers!
Dean's ignorance on the matter isn't the major point of the exchange. His indifference to the idea of bin Laden being brought to America is a stunning display of his detachment from the war on terror.Republicans hope that Dean doesn't self-destruct before he gets the nomination, but the country ought to be getting all of Dean's quotes, not just those the reporters think make good copy.
You go, Dean !!!
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