[robertpaulsen]

At the time of the signing of the U.S. Constitution, the states were fiercely independent. For you to think that the document they were creating would apply one standard to all of them is ludicrous.

The U.S. Constitution, and the first eight amendments, only applied to the newly formed federal government. Each state already has a constitution, and many of them already had some form of a RKBA.

You can call it crazy. You can call it traitorous. But that's how the document read in 1789 when it was signed. I guess our founding fathers were crazy traitors to the U.S. also?

[tpaine]

At the time of the signing of the U.S. Constitution, the states were fiercely independent. For you to think that the document they were creating would apply one standard to all of them is ludicrous.

They were fully aware they were creating a more perfect union, where all men would be free, -- to own a gun, along with any other type of property, throughout he states & territories. You've got the crazy idea that once states were formed they then could take away a US citizens right to possess & bear arms. -- An absolutely insane idea.

The U.S. Constitution, and the first eight amendments, only applied to the newly formed federal government. Each state already has a constitution, and many of them already had some form of a RKBA. You can call it crazy. You can call it traitorous. But that's how the document read in 1789 when it was signed. I guess our founding fathers were crazy traitors to the U.S. also?

No, they were very smart men that allowed for checks & balances between fed & state powers. These powers are now being violated by state, fed, & local governments, particularily over the RKBA's.

You traitorously approve of CA's violations. Case closed.