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To: Dead Corpse
"There is a clear conflict between gun bans, State and Federal,"

Only in your mind.

The second amendment says that the RKBA shall not be infinged by the federal government. They may be (and are) infringed by the states. Some states allow CCW, some don't. Illinois requires a Firearm Owners' ID card to purchase a gun or even to purchase ammunition. Other states don't. Some cities (acting under state constitutions) even ban the ownership of guns.

So, in the real world, it all makes sense and there is no conflict, clear or otherwise.

But, your fantasy world has no explanation for this. A conflict arises in your fantasy world. Your only explanation is, "The states and cities are acting unconstitutionally!", whatever that means. You can't point to one ruling, one case, one finding, that supports your claim. You just "feel like" it's unconstitutional.

Well, la-di-dah.

178 posted on 12/03/2003 10:10:20 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
No, it says that the Right to Keep and Bear Arms shall not be infringed, period.

It says that CONGRESS may not violage the right to assemble, the right to worship, the Free Press, nor establish a state religion.

The states MAY violate your 1st Amendment rights. They may NOT violate your 2nd Amendment rights.

And this difference is going to be the spark that begins a civil war in the US.
179 posted on 12/03/2003 10:13:55 AM PST by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: robertpaulsen
The second amendment says that the RKBA shall not be infinged by the federal government.

No it doesn't dumbass. It clearly states that "... the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

State registration schemes and prohibitions are as un-Constitutional now as they were prior to 1934.

Get over it.

182 posted on 12/03/2003 10:25:05 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: robertpaulsen
The second amendment says that the RKBA shall not be infinged by the federal government.

Really? And the 4th only prevents federal cops from barging into your home without a warrant? Local cops can wander into your bathroom unannounced, anytime they feel like it?

Maybe in your wettest jackboot dreams.

The 2nd bars infringement on the right of the people (any people really, even non-citizens) to keep (have) and bear (carry around) arms - whether from the feds, from the state, from the town, or from a bunch of your neighbors who have decided to gain up on you to take your guns.

186 posted on 12/03/2003 10:27:38 AM PST by Jim Cane
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